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LIOG41 02-28-2012 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by vprMatrix (Post 1142706)
There are 10 in First and 14 in coach.

thank you.

KC10 FATboy 02-28-2012 01:50 PM

Can you change your X or * days after they've been awarded?

I have a weekend off, and I'd like to work it now and move those days off to a Monday an Tuesday. I however and not sure how to do that.

vprMatrix 02-28-2012 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 1142711)
Can you change your X or * days after they've been awarded?

I have a weekend off, and I'd like to work it now and move those days off to a Monday an Tuesday. I however and not sure how to do that.

Schedules > PCS > Leave Requests

> Select the Bid Period then "Move reserve off days"

> Add/Update Leave Request > Enter your days and submit :)

LandGreen2 02-28-2012 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 1142597)
The last CA I flew with, who had DPA crew tags prominently displayed on his bags, said we are lucky if we get 5% up front, and 4% over the life of the contract. Hearing him say that made me vurp. I would share his other thoughts, but I think he might be on this forum so I will keep my mouth shut. However, his expectations and mine were vastly different.

well tell him next time...that the guys carrying the ball on C12 will have to be any FO that is looking at 20 years until upgrade (anyone hired after 2000); and junior narrowbody CA's. That should give us more than 50% I hope!

sinca3 02-28-2012 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Thrust Normal (Post 1142636)
How much do you think it costs them, in resources and time, to process all of those employees non-reving?

They don't allocate agents or resources specifically for our nonrev travels, as our friend Carl has already mentioned.
When many were hired this was a benefit of coming to this airline...free travel privileges, now they charge us for a benefit they offered us as "employment collateral".

sinca3 02-28-2012 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1142690)
What they do not charge us is the taxes and airport facilities fees from each flight taken. They absorb that. They also absorb the tax hit for it being a benefit that can be hit against your income, just like a company provided car.

50 bucks irks me to, but the fact is that they could really nickel and dime us on more than just the annual fee and the customs taxes. Personally, I want nonrev benefits codified in our PWA so that they cannot change them on a whim; fees, allotments etc.

Funny, I have taxes and fees payroll deducted every time I take a flight! Maybe I'm wrong bu those are the same taxes and fees any rev pax would pay. Example a round trip ATL-CUN for me and Misus is $123.46
The only thing DAL gives us is the ability to ride in open seats that no one else bought....and a free meal and drinks if on the chance you get Biz/First.

georgetg 02-28-2012 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1142690)
50 bucks irks me to, but the fact is that they could really nickel and dime us on more than just the annual fee and the customs taxes. Personally, I want nonrev benefits codified in our PWA so that they cannot change them on a whim; fees, allotments etc.

The money doesn't irk me but the reduced availability of open seats means that is another benefit reduction.

I'd like to see a tiered plan:

$0 for pilot benefits to be active
$50 for PPR access for all pass riders
$250 all that plus annual confirmed RT flight passes for all PPR riders
$500 two confirmed RT flight passes for all PPR riders

Same concept of "one great team" upgradable RT flight passes for every PPR#, but available every year.

Cheers
George

sailingfun 02-28-2012 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Thrust Normal (Post 1142671)
My only point is that there's some cost involved.

You are correct. Your infrastructure has to be sized for the total number of passengers you carry. It makes no difference if they are revenue or non revenue.

sailingfun 02-28-2012 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1142690)
What they do not charge us is the taxes and airport facilities fees from each flight taken. They absorb that. They also absorb the tax hit for it being a benefit that can be hit against your income, just like a company provided car.

50 bucks irks me to, but the fact is that they could really nickel and dime us on more than just the annual fee and the customs taxes. Personally, I want nonrev benefits codified in our PWA so that they cannot change them on a whim; fees, allotments etc.


They can't change the benefits on a whim. In fact the current non rev benefit is much better then what we once had which was 15 dollars per segment for every flight if you had less then 10 years with the company. The company once made a unilateral change in pass benefits. DALPA filed and won a grievance. The company sent me a nice 3000 dollar check for the increase in my previous year non rev fees. 50 is a bargan compared to those days.

acl65pilot 02-28-2012 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1142731)
Funny, I have taxes and fees payroll deducted every time I take a flight! Maybe I'm wrong bu those are the same taxes and fees any rev pax would pay. Example a round trip ATL-CUN for me and Misus is $123.46
The only thing DAL gives us is the ability to ride in open seats that no one else bought....and a free meal and drinks if on the chance you get Biz/First.

But you pay nothing domestically. Ask the fNWA guys what they paid for a flight. Ask other airlines as well. Domestic is free except the 50 bucks. What you are paying on an international flight is/are government taxes and fees. Dal has never waived those.


Problem I see is they could change all of this tomorrow. It needs to be codified in the PWA.


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