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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1141958)
He is the only "former" Marine I ever met.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1142111)
I liked a post seen on an ALPA board once. ... that Joe had left Delta to spend ore time with his family, but apparently they could not stand him either so a few months later he went to United.
He's in SA now last I heard... Cheers George |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1142083)
I saw an ALPA rep yesterday in the ATL airport (he identified himself and said he was going to DC for upcoming meetings). I asked him about the upcoming contract and possible raises and he stated "AMR has changed the game."
Good job at putting him in his place. That defeatest mentality coupled with a complete lack of situational awareness means that individual is flat out not qualified to be a union rep. If anything the AMR situation gives DALPA more leverage not less. Even if they got that they wanted in their little MBA term paper, SWA/AT has no outsourcing, JB flies E190's at drastically higher rates than DL's, USAir doesn't outsource the E190, UAL is limited to 70 seats and CAL is limited to 50, Spirit and VA don't have any "scope jets" either. Other than USAir's self imposed B scale seniority list scuffle, and even if AMR gets what they want, they are still poorly run and are already admitting they will reduce capacity and rely on mass outsourcing and that's if they make it. Is it a "game changer"? Yeah, maybe. For ALPA if that's how they see things. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1142111)
I liked a post seen on an ALPA board once. ... that Joe had left Delta to spend ore time with his family, but apparently they could not stand him either so a few months later he went to United.
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Originally Posted by Thrust Normal
(Post 1142094)
The fact is though, AMR BK is a game changer.
A 1.2 billion dollar profit and SWA paying 52% more than our -88 rate should be a game changer |
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1142106)
The upcoming displacement bid will be very telling.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/risk.jpg Reducing Risk The lack of early-outs for pilots along with the consistent message from flight-ops that we are overstaffed and will displace from the top tier equipment, makes me wonder about the meaning of the above slide which was shown at the Delta Investor Day last December. Sounds more like poking a stick in a hornets nest than reducing labor risk to me... http://members.shaw.ca/crystaljems/i...Fey.lapdog.JPG Carl |
Originally Posted by Doug Masters
(Post 1142119)
A 1.2 billion dollar profit and SWA paying 52% more than our -88 rate should be a game changer
http://members.shaw.ca/crystaljems/i...Fey.lapdog.JPG Carl |
we're takin' it back!!!
Originally Posted by carl spackler
(Post 1142125)
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1142083)
I saw an ALPA rep yesterday in the ATL airport (he identified himself and said he was going to DC for upcoming meetings). I asked him about the upcoming contract and possible raises and he stated "AMR has changed the game." I actually put him in his place saying "We already have done things in our BK that AMR has yet to do (PBS, loss of pensions, etc), and our airline is also nowhere close to AA in terms of losses. Our airline has done VERY well." He tried to back track of course, saying "Of course, of course" but I told him stearnly that the DPA was catching on, and if this future TA is weak, he should expect to go back to the line full time." He didn't like that, but I think he got the picture.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1142147)
Which rep at which base?
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1138263)
Sailingfun,
Any "color" on scope, either from the Company, or our MEC's, perspective?
Originally Posted by DAWGS
(Post 1138392)
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1138263)
Sailingfun,
Any "color" on scope, either from the Company, or our MEC's, perspective? Carl |
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