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buzzpat 02-27-2012 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1142002)
Wait, we used to fly nonstop from MSP to HNL, but then dropped it, so obviously there aren't enough people in Minnesota or the upper Midwest that want to go to Hawaii. Nope, not enough.

Yeah, but there's lots of cargo.

FlyingSig 02-27-2012 12:57 PM

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 27, 2012
Contact: Les Dorr, Jr. or Alison Duquette
Phone: 2xx-xxx-xxxx

FAA Proposes to Raise Airline Pilot Qualification Standards

WASHINGTON – The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today proposed to substantially raise the qualification requirements for first officers who fly for U.S. passenger and cargo airlines.

Consistent with a mandate in the Airline Safety and Federal Aviation Administration Extension Act of 2010, the proposed rule would require first officers – also known as co-pilots – to hold an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate, requiring 1,500 hours of pilot flight time. Currently, first officers are required to have only a commercial pilot certificate, which requires 250 hours of flight time. The proposal also would require first officers to have an aircraft type rating, which involves additional training and testing specific to the airplanes they fly.

“Safety in all modes of transportation is our number-one priority,” said Secretary LaHood. “This proposed rule reflects our commitment to the safety of the traveling public by making sure our pilots are the most qualified and best trained in the world.”

“Our pilots need to have the right training and the right qualifications so they can be prepared to handle any situation they encounter in the cockpit,” said FAA Acting Administrator Michael Huerta. “I believe this proposed rule will ensure our nation’s pilots have the necessary skills and experience.”

Other highlights of the proposed rule include:

· A requirement for a pilot to have a minimum of 1,000 flight hours as a pilot in air carrier operations that require an ATP prior to serving as a captain for a U.S. airline.

· Enhanced training requirements for an ATP certificate, including 50 hours of multi-engine flight experience and completion of a new FAA-approved training program.

· An allowance for pilots with fewer than 1,500 hours of flight time, but who have an aviation degree or military pilot experience, to obtain a “restricted privileges” ATP certificate. These pilots could serve only as a first officer, not as a captain. Former military pilots with 750 hours of flight time would be able to apply for an ATP certificate with restricted privileges. Graduates of a four-year baccalaureate aviation degree program would be able to obtain an ATP with 1,000 hours of flight time, only if they also obtained a commercial pilot certificate and instrument rating from a pilot school affiliated with the university or college.

The proposal addresses recommendations from an Aviation Rulemaking Committee, the National Transportation Safety Board, and the FAA’s Call to Action to improve airline safety.

The proposed rule can be viewed at: Public Inspection Documents The public may comment on the proposal for 60 days after publication on February 29.

acl65pilot 02-27-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1142013)
Yeah, but there's lots of cargo.


There were plenty of people, DAL did not like the fact that most of them were redemption flies and therefore the RASM was though the floor. Kind of crazy to me, but they are going after revenue and dumping cities like HNL for revenue. Upsets the frequent fliers that want to use their miles, but alas we will allow them to redeem their miles on HI.....

Carl Spackler 02-27-2012 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1141826)
Monday reminder: The Buckets need to be changed.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...if?w=500&h=281

That is all.

Jesse...APC's MVP!

Carl

dragon 02-27-2012 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1142004)
That is exactly what a lot of the pilots telling me they are looking are saying. There are even some junior capts looking at bailing if this contract does not restore a lot of this career.

Had a long talk with a friend at FedEx recently, don't want to suck it up for another first year or two of bad pay, but by the third look out.

BTW this is no longer a career, it's just a J-O-B. Sorry.

acl65pilot 02-27-2012 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingSig (Post 1142017)
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 27, 2012
Contact: Les Dorr, Jr. or Alison Duquette
Phone: 2xx-xxx-xxxx

FAA Proposes to Raise Airline Pilot Qualification Standards

WASHINGTON – The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today proposed to substantially raise the qualification requirements for first officers who fly for U.S. passenger and cargo airlines.

Consistent with a mandate in the Airline Safety and Federal Aviation Administration Extension Act of 2010, the proposed rule would require first officers – also known as co-pilots – to hold an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate, requiring 1,500 hours of pilot flight time. Currently, first officers are required to have only a commercial pilot certificate, which requires 250 hours of flight time. The proposal also would require first officers to have an aircraft type rating, which involves additional training and testing specific to the airplanes they fly.

“Safety in all modes of transportation is our number-one priority,” said Secretary LaHood. “This proposed rule reflects our commitment to the safety of the traveling public by making sure our pilots are the most qualified and best trained in the world.”

“Our pilots need to have the right training and the right qualifications so they can be prepared to handle any situation they encounter in the cockpit,” said FAA Acting Administrator Michael Huerta. “I believe this proposed rule will ensure our nation’s pilots have the necessary skills and experience.”

Other highlights of the proposed rule include:

· A requirement for a pilot to have a minimum of 1,000 flight hours as a pilot in air carrier operations that require an ATP prior to serving as a captain for a U.S. airline.

· Enhanced training requirements for an ATP certificate, including 50 hours of multi-engine flight experience and completion of a new FAA-approved training program.

· An allowance for pilots with fewer than 1,500 hours of flight time, but who have an aviation degree or military pilot experience, to obtain a “restricted privileges” ATP certificate. These pilots could serve only as a first officer, not as a captain. Former military pilots with 750 hours of flight time would be able to apply for an ATP certificate with restricted privileges. Graduates of a four-year baccalaureate aviation degree program would be able to obtain an ATP with 1,000 hours of flight time, only if they also obtained a commercial pilot certificate and instrument rating from a pilot school affiliated with the university or college.

The proposal addresses recommendations from an Aviation Rulemaking Committee, the National Transportation Safety Board, and the FAA’s Call to Action to improve airline safety.

The proposed rule can be viewed at: Public Inspection Documents The public may comment on the proposal for 60 days after publication on February 29.

Looks exactly what I thought it would like.

acl65pilot 02-27-2012 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1142025)
Had a long talk with a friend at FedEx recently, don't want to suck it up for another first year or two of bad pay, but by the third look out.

BTW this is no longer a career, it's just a J-O-B. Sorry.


I have a few buds that are making 100K their first year there and abouut 170K their second. Of course they are in HKG. I think that Fedelta has someone he knows over there as well that can back it up.

Also, many of the jobs in various parts of the world do not start on traditional US first year pay.

RockyBoy 02-27-2012 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by freightguy (Post 1141997)
In fact, if the management wants to try furlough to scare us, I say BRING IT ON! In fact, I would be delighted. But I won't give a single concession on scope nor would settle for anything less than restoration of my 40% paycut.

I'm not sure I would be delighted, but I would take a voluntary furlough right around the april time frame. 5th year pay, working 85 hours per month, just squeaking in over 100K W-2 earnings, spending half my life in a hotel away from the family........I can replace this job no problem.

This is still a great job and I'm not whining, but it has to get better than it is or it's simply not worth it anymore to spend half your life in a hotel instead of with your family.

Superpilot92 02-27-2012 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1142025)
Had a long talk with a friend at FedEx recently, don't want to suck it up for another first year or two of bad pay, but by the third look out.

BTW this is no longer a career, it's just a J-O-B. Sorry.

fedex second year is 118 on 727/757 and 144 on everything else, thats more than our 7 year 757 guys for 118.

looking at 144 for second year on everything else, well our 12 year md-88 CAPTAIN is at 168, not that big of a difference when you consider you're talking about a newb at fedex and 12 year captain....:cool:

its a no brainer for alot of people to bail for that opportunity. I would consider it if i had "the right stuff"...especially if pay doesnt come back on this contract

Superpilot92 02-27-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1142036)
I'm not sure I would be delighted, but I would take a voluntary furlough right around the april time frame. 5th year pay, working 85 hours per month, just squeaking in over 100K W-2 earnings, spending half my life in a hotel away from the family........I can replace this job no problem.

This is still a great job and I'm not whining, but it has to get better than it is or it's simply not worth it anymore to spend half your life in a hotel instead of with your family.

we have a winner ^^^^^^^^^^


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