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Old 11-17-2011, 04:01 PM
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OK, so did you see the news tonight that a "Delta pilot" on a Delta flight from Asheville to Lagardia was trapped in lav while the only FA onboard this "Delta jet" was in the cockpit. I bet Delta management is sure proud of that! I think we should flood the reps and CPOs with emails about this one.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing myself.

If your in the mood for some comedy, check out the regional thread post about this "incident".

Either way it's an embarrassment.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:02 PM
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OK, so did you see the news tonight that a "Delta pilot" on a Delta flight from Asheville to Lagardia was trapped in lav while the only FA onboard this "Delta jet" was in the cockpit. I bet Delta management is sure proud of that! I think we should flood the reps and CPOs with emails about this one.
I heard that report. Of course buried in the dialogue was it was actually a subcontractor.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleSam View Post
OK, so did you see the news tonight that a "Delta pilot" on a Delta flight from Asheville to Lagardia was trapped in lav while the only FA onboard this "Delta jet" was in the cockpit. I bet Delta management is sure proud of that! I think we should flood the reps and CPOs with emails about this one.
This is the kind of embarrassment we must endure when the pride of our brand is outsourced to the lowest bidder, and DAL pilots are the last choice of DAL management.

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Old 11-17-2011, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead View Post
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing myself.

If your in the mood for some comedy, check out the regional thread post about this "incident".

Either way it's an embarrassment.
In slight defense of those involved who are strangers to me, you've got a crappy door design and one single flight attendant on the airplane who is in the cockpit.

What were the alternatives for the captain in the lav?
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:36 PM
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Which system are you on Diamond or Gold? Thanks. Was going to PM you but you are soooo NEW! LOL
My response to the pay question did not involve Southwest.

I simply asked that we demand the same increase Delta / UHC has been getting on our health care coverage and a similar decrease in what we cover (productivity).

Since Richard used to run UHC, he surely understands what we mean when we say "increased premium for decreased coverage." UHC's profits are up 21% year on year through the first quarter 2010 so its strategy of acting like an unregulated monopoly (they have good scope) is rewarding them well.

When you baseline the cost of my coverage since 1999 through Delta and its various subsidiaries, the cost is up somewhere in the neighborhood of 350% while coverage is around 80% (very rough number) of what it once provided.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails View Post
In slight defense of those involved who are strangers to me, you've got a crappy door design and one single flight attendant on the airplane who is in the cockpit.

What were the alternatives for the captain in the lav?
I don't fault those pilots. I fault our management who has put our brand secondary to cost. When they allow our brand to be pasted on an airplane with unknown quality, our brand gets tarnished.

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Old 11-17-2011, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails View Post
In slight defense of those involved who are strangers to me, you've got a crappy door design and one single flight attendant on the airplane who is in the cockpit.

What were the alternatives for the captain in the lav?
Honestly, I think kicking the door open or having a passenger kick the door in would have sufficed. Not sure how this needed to become a national incident, but hey that's just me.

It's still an embarrassiment to DAL, but like Carl said that's what you get when you outsource your product.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails View Post
What were the alternatives for the captain in the lav?
(1) Stick his pen in the latch
(2) Pull the pins out of the hinge, or
(3) Kick the thing, repeat as necessary

Any Pilot who can't extricate himself from a plastic honeycomb door does not have the common sense to be in command of a jetliner.

Heck, how many of us have had those things simply fall out when bumped?

One one aircraft type Cockpit Door used to fall out when the power was pushed up for takeoff. the French had a complex electromagnet cockpit door locking system with a computer and lights. The problem was the hinges were the same crap that must be used to hold the glove box door on a Citroen 2CV. When a cockpit door hits the floor flat, it is really, REALLY, loud.

The FAA Certified the design. That doesn't say much. The FAA Certified the MD88.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
(1) Stick his pen in the latch
(2) Pull the pins out of the hinge, or
(3) Kick the thing, repeat as necessary

Any Pilot who can't extricate himself from a plastic honeycomb door does not have the common sense to be in command of a jetliner.

I had one of these doors gets stuck one time. The long pin connecting the bi-fold doors together slid out and got caught on the lip of the floor. Almost had to get the axe to pry the door up and slide the pin over the lip. Real pain in the butt!! It would be real hard to get out from the inside. You'd have to put your back against the wall and kick the snot out of the door.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:57 PM
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You'd have to put your back against the wall and kick the snot out of the door.
OK ... beats getting intercepted and as PO'd as I am about the upcoming displacement bid ... I might even enjoy it.
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