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Old 11-17-2011 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Yeah, at least Bar knows his limitations!
You mean like:

MAX OPERATING ALTITUDE - 37,000 feet
.. or ..
APU GEN FREQ 396 + or - 8 Hz

That thing has LOTS of limitations ... and don't get me started on how this is GARBAGE!

Old 11-17-2011 | 06:16 PM
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Bedtime stories from the "what's it doing now" file:
MD88 FLC OVERSHOOT ASSIGNED ALT ON DEP WHEN BOTH PLTS ATTEMPT TO TROUBLESHOOT COMPASS SYS SPLIT.

Narrative: BOTH COMPASS SYS SPLIT ON INITIAL TURN TO HDG OF 190 DEGS. DIVERGENCE INCREASED RADICALLY ON TURN TO 220 DEGS AT 2.3 MI DME. ATTN DIVERTED TO STANDBY COMPASS TO CONFIRM ACTUAL HDG. EXCEEDED ASSIGNED ALT OF 2500 FT BY APPROX 600 FT. RETURNED TO 2500 FT EXPEDITIOUSLY AND CONTINUED TO WORK COMPASS PROB. IN RETROSPECT, I INAPPROPRIATELY DEVOTED TOO MUCH ATTN TO THE ABNORMAL CONDITION RATHER THAN MAINTAINING MORE COMPREHENSIVE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. ADDITIONALLY, THE STANDBY COMPASS ON THE DC9/MD80 IS ABYSMAL. IT IS AN AWKWARD ARRANGEMENT, AT BEST. THE COMPASS MUST BE VIEWED THROUGH A SYS OF MIRRORS WHICH EASILY GET OUT OF ALIGNMENT. THE MONITORING PLT WAS REMOVED FROM HIS 'MONITORING ROLE' BY THE IMMEDIATE NEED TO REALIGN THE MIRRORS OF THE STANDBY COMPASS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 510481: WE HAD A COMPASS DISCREPANCY. I ATTEMPTED TO CONFIRM OUR HDG BY USING THE MAGNETIC COMPASS AND XCHKING WITH BOTH COMPASS SYS. THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED ON THE MD88 WITH A SERIES OF MIRRORS AND LIGHTS. THE CAPT WAS FLYING THE ACFT. A FEW SECONDS LATER, I HEARD THE ALT RPTR NOTIFY US OF A DEV. I FEEL I COULD HAVE MONITORED THE ACFT BETTER, HAD I NOT BEEN TRYING TO FIND THE COMPASS IN THE BACK OF THE COCKPIT THROUGH THE SERIES OF MIRRORS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text.
Old 11-17-2011 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
You mean like:

MAX OPERATING ALTITUDE - 37,000 feet
.. or ..
APU GEN FREQ 396 + or - 8 Hz

That thing has LOTS of limitations ... and don't get me started on how this is GARBAGE!

The MD88 don't care, it doesn't give a ****.

The MD-88.
Old 11-17-2011 | 06:24 PM
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This is cute ... from the same airline none the less ...
Narrative: ON BOTH DAYS WE WERE SLOWED DOWN TO MINIMUM FORWARD AIRSPD TO FOLLOW BEHIND ONE DC9 OR ONE MD88. THIS SLOWDOWN COST US 24 MINS AND 4000 LBS OF FUEL AND 15 MINS AND 3000 LBS OF FUEL RESPECTIVELY. HOWEVER AT THE DISTANCES INVOLVED WE COULD HAVE EASILY OVERTAKEN THE ACFT ... .
Old 11-17-2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The MD88 don't care, it doesn't give a ****.

The MD-88.
Well, if the " **** " is "hydraulic pressure" then you got it Hiney Badger. Because you got to burp it like a baby ...

The right auxiliary pump and the xfer unit were switched off at cruise; FL360. At top of descent; the auxiliary and xfer unit pumps were switched back on. Hydraulic pressure and quantity were normal. Between FL240 and FL220 and approximately 60 NM north of ZZZ2; the master caution light illuminated and indicated left/right hydraulic pressure low. System display panel showed hydraulic pressures zero and quantities L19/R9. The first officer began working the non normal checklist for hydraulic pressure low in the QRH. This particular checklist ensures all pumps are on and then in an attempt to remove air from the system the checklist requires the engine hydraulic pump and auxiliary/xfer pump be switched off and then back on. The first officer accomplished this 4 times with no permanent rise in hydraulic pressure ....
Old 11-17-2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
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**UPDATE** THE 09NOV11 AE BID WILL NOW CLOSE AT 1400E ON MONDAY NOV 21. ENSURE YOUR AE/VD/MD BIDS ARE UP TO DATE AND APPROPRIATE.
Gives you the warm fuzzies eh?
Old 11-17-2011 | 06:29 PM
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Bar you posting ASAP reports?
Old 11-17-2011 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Bar you posting ASAP reports?
Not ASAP, NASA and those are public. He loves to read a few ASAP reports before bed. It is his way of coming to terms with getting displaced to the 88 or commute to the 320......
Old 11-17-2011 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Gives you the warm fuzzies eh?
Typical ... Some 747 jocks are sitting around a bar in Narita when someone says ... "hey, did ya hear Memphis clowsed" ... "oh Jeez o' pete" ... "ya betcha" ... then they all called to complain that they were given no notice about the base closure and they were in Asia ... not that this has anything to do with what 747 pilots bid, but the Company decided to give extra time so they can release the displacements over the Thanksgiving Holiday when there is no one around to complain to.

It is kind of "bi winning" thing ... win here, win there.
Old 11-17-2011 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
You mean like:

MAX OPERATING ALTITUDE - 37,000 feet
.. or ..
APU GEN FREQ 396 + or - 8 Hz

That thing has LOTS of limitations ... and don't get me started on how this is GARBAGE!

Well, you may know your limitations, but you apparently don't know the MD-88 very well. That is not a photo of the hydraulic switch configuration on an MD-88.
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