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If all the instruments were functioning "normally" at the last 15000 feet, what were the instruments doing the previous 15000+ feet? Plus what was the stall computer logic below a certain speed? Remember it that fooled everyone involved, and provided a contributing factor to the accident. It got so bad that it shut off, but corrections actually turned it back on, during a recovery attempt once the speed reset the logic.
It appears that pitch/power relationships that are basic fundamentals to our work were indeed overlooked, but to play devils advocate, one must consider again airbus engineer logic disconnect with the human-computer interface in regards to this accident. This accident chain was started with a faulty pitot/static probe heater.

Once you go beyond certain parameters, even with everything working (or in this case working "again") when things recover it sheds many of the protections. Sort of like its saying "OK, not sure *** just happened but even though all appears normal, you can do what you feel you need to do" sort of thing. So once things get too bad, its your airplane; it won't save you by itself anymore.

johnso29

12-11-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1100141)

Posting from church this morning, ftb? :)

For those wondering, this is how ftb keeps it real on a Saturday night:

http://chzallnighter.files.wordpress...iaper-poop.jpg

80,

That's just wrong dude. Just wrong. :D

Bucking Bar

12-11-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CAAC ATP (Post 1099780)

Does anyone know if extended personal leaves of absence are being granted? If so, are PLOA's negotiated on a case by case basis with the company?

It seems we are overstaffed and I thought there might be some opportunity in this.

Yes, up to 18 months.

Or, bid reserve, do nearly nothing, get paid, work second and third jobs from home.

sevenfiveseven

12-11-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1100161)

Yes, up to 18 months.

Or, bid reserve, do nearly nothing, get paid, work second and third jobs from home.

Just curious, what second or third job do you do from home? :)

Carl Spackler

12-11-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sevenfiveseven (Post 1100163)

Just curious, what second or third job do you do from home? :)

Clean 80ktsClamp's carpets.

Carl

hoserpilot

12-11-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1100170)

Clean 80ktsClamp's carpets.

Carl

I just spit on my computer screen...thanks!:D:D Too funny!

Ferd149

12-11-2011 11:22 AM

Warning Will Robinson!!

If you go to a formal school with the eCourse and the eVerify test at the end, doing the memory stick alone will not cut it. I did the run time test in ATL and came close to passing the test but didn't. I finished going through the memory stick again this week, followed by a Vol II review of the system that I failed first time through but didn't pass the practice test this morning.

So, the eCourse (at least on the A330) is incomplete. You will need to also read the Vol II to fill in holes and LOD study. I'll write a critique, of course, but I think I'll also call HH at DALPA too.

I have a feeling that they tried to keep the memory stick info to a minimum since that is what they were paying us off of. It may be me.........I am the product of a public school education:D

iceman49

12-11-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1100182)

Ferd, how did the other members do on the passing rate for the run time test?

NWflyer

12-11-2011 01:56 PM

At the expense of asking a question pertaining to Delta...

What does the SEA base look like these days?

Is it just 757 and A330?

Does anybody know what year the lowest FO was hired in each jet?

How many pilots are based there?

johnso29

12-11-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NWflyer (Post 1100248)

Yes, SEA only has the A330 & B757/767 bases there. Last I saw a 2007 hire could hold 757/767, but that may have changed in this latest bid(most likely became more senior). I think there are less then 200 pilots based there, but that's honestly just a guess.

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