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Old 12-16-2011 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
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When are you going to be done being "reasonable" about this stuff. RJs between giant cities is not something to be reasonable about. WE HAVE GIVEN TOO MUCH.

Do not mistake me offering logic for a lack of desire to reign in outsourcing. Far from it. At a min, I want a sunset clause for all DCI CPA's and a moratorium on all new contracts or extensions. The stuff needs to be flown here, period. My point is that, LGA will provide growth for DAL pilots, even under the current section 1, and I explained how.

You are right too Scambo, we gave it away, and now we are seeing the fruits of the concession. Ten plus years of stagnation, and unless we get all of Section 1 right, whether it be in a extension, modification, or a completed traditional section 6, this has to be fixed, period.
Old 12-16-2011 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrunner65
Re: LGA expansion dupe

One of the guys on the DALPA forum suggested taking out a full page ad in the NYT calling the company out on their huge "expansion" in LGA and advising the public that Delta really isn't flying all of that new service, it's an outsourced RJ. I think it is an excellent idea, and time to show the company that this DCI cr@p won't be tolerated anymore.
Unfortunately the pax do not care, if it cost less and they get frequent flyer miles...
Old 12-16-2011 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by STINKY
Is bringing the RJ in house and be the starting aircraft at Delta to much to ask?
There was a "Should Compass be stapled?" poll back when that was being discussed and it included four different levels of response with varying criteria for the yes or no.

Go do a search for it on here and see the astonishing number of your peers who voted a full fledged, no exceptions, "NO" for the staple idea which would place the E175 at mainline.
Old 12-16-2011 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
There was a "Should Compass be stapled?" poll back when that was being discussed and it included four different levels of response with varying criteria for the yes or no.

Go do a search for it on here and see the astonishing number of your peers who voted a full fledged, no exceptions, "NO" for the staple idea which would place the E175 at mainline.
What many guys argued is a staple is great, but unless you can guarantee that those jets will not then be outsourced, and or the 255 cap on 70/76 seat jets be lowered, the idea of a staple would be a surefire way to get those pilots numbers and then subsequently furloughed.

Of course most went, Duh!, but the reality is unless you can simultaneously reign in the scope limits, bringing pilots to a list with out a guarantee of the jets staying on property ultimately would result in pilots with not jets, which would equate to no jobs and a resultant furlough.
Old 12-16-2011 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrunner65
Re: LGA expansion dupe

One of the guys on the DALPA forum suggested taking out a full page ad in the NYT calling the company out on their huge "expansion" in LGA and advising the public that Delta really isn't flying all of that new service, it's an outsourced RJ. I think it is an excellent idea, and time to show the company that this DCI cr@p won't be tolerated anymore.
Last time I checked, we voted in the contract with the current scope clause which allowed DCI to become what it is today. We need to take some blame, too. Hopefully, we've learned our lessons and will not give more flying away in the future. Maybe we'll even gain some of that flying back in 2012, but I'm not holding my breath.
Old 12-16-2011 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Unfortunately the pax do not care, if it cost less and they get frequent flyer miles...
so true...too bad we don't offer the frontline documentary "flying cheap" free on all our a/c!!!
Old 12-16-2011 | 06:20 PM
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Old 12-16-2011 | 06:30 PM
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Okay guys, sorry about the attempt late last night! But to get ready for the games this weekend, here are some cheerleaders.....

[EDIT: Admin ruined the fun and removed the embedded photo that violated the forum Terms of Service ]

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Old 12-16-2011 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
Yep, Skywest boys over on the RJ thread are optimistic about expansion in the near future. Of course, it will be at the expense of much better jobs.... who knew??
Hey, I'm a man, man!

And while the attitude you mention does exist with some, a lot more of us understand whats going on that you might think.
Old 12-16-2011 | 06:47 PM
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