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tsquare 01-15-2012 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1117387)
I agree. At JetBlue when they have an irop and need extra SC guys they put out a request for RSA (reserve supplementation something) days. You bid for them and if you get one you are on SC for the day and get 4:30 pay or the greater of what you fly if they call you. If they don't call you then you still get the 4:30. Local guys make lots of $$$ with those days.

Sounds interesting.. If we were to adopt something like this though, it should be reserve only though... But we all know how it will go down: Nothing will change, and we will hear "Don't worry about it, there will be so much growth that you won't be on reserve for long".. or the old standard "Don't worry son, you'll be senior someday"

forgot to bid 01-15-2012 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1117391)
That they are. Looks like the new LOA made reserve more senior.

My place on the list fell 40% from January to February. Instead of being senior reserve I've fallen pretty far % wise, not necessarily number wise. Partly because they slashed 25 reserve pilots on the 88 in ATL. That never helps.

I was looking at this LOA 29 and the bucket examples it game. It showed 0-80 in the first bucket for RAW score. I know it's just an example and its category contingent, but if they used that on ATL 88 B that'd be very high considering many don't cross 80 for the whole month. Although I guess you need to count raw score in there now. That will make a difference.

tsquare 01-15-2012 06:54 AM

Magnificent 7 on AMC... I think I saw Steve McQueen Tebowing.

Jesse 01-15-2012 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1117516)
My place on the list fell 40% from January to February. Instead of being senior reserve I've fallen pretty far % wise, not necessarily number wise. Partly because they slashed 25 reserve pilots on the 88 in ATL. That never helps.

I was looking at this LOA 29 and the bucket examples it game. It showed 0-80 in the first bucket for RAW score. I know it's just an example and its category contingent, but if they used that on ATL 88 B that'd be very high considering many don't cross 80 for the whole month. Although I guess you need to count raw score in there now. That will make a difference.

Talk LOA reads:
The number and size of RAW buckets will be set for a given bid period and made available on the Crew Resources and Scheduling page of DeltaNet no later than the last day of the prior bid period.

Talk about not knowing what you're bidding for.

Ferd149 01-15-2012 07:40 AM

Ok bidding experts........what does pulled during shuffle mean? It was my number one choice and looks like it was still on the board, I'm confused. 65 hour line, I should have sat reserve:mad:

1. Start Pairings
2. Prefer Off Feb 11, 2012, Feb 12, 2012, Feb 13, 2012
Honored
3. Set Condition Minimum Base Layover 096:00
Honored
4. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3573
Pulled during shuffle: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)

5. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3802
Awarded to senior bidder: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)
6. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3509
Filtered by bid number 2: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)
7. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3804
3804 2012-02-18 22:25 2012-02-28 12:35 (065:46) (B)

(1 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 065:46)
8. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3533
Awarded to senior bidder: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 065:46)

Cogf16 01-15-2012 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by SFWB (Post 1116085)
most captains I fly with will be happy to get 20% raise. Ugh.

Catching up on a bunch of topics.

-American 757's have RR engines:):):)
-I'm a Capt and my minimum is about 40-50% over the life of the contract, plus other things like scope, scheduling, DC plan etc. How about 20-25% at DOS then about 8, 8, and 8. I'm equally concerned about scope and JV's as much as pay.

forgot to bid 01-15-2012 08:20 AM

Looking at this new reserve bucket system, to me it has the potential to take what was event spread out flying based on one thing - whether you had weekends off or not, and tilts towards senior pilots and brings everyone else down. I'll wait and see how this works out but the improvements in pcs and sc are fantastic, the rest of this looks like ****. It like the OWS, spread the wealth my way requires bringing everyone else down.

Bill Lumberg 01-15-2012 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1117536)
Ok bidding experts........what does pulled during shuffle mean? It was my number one choice and looks like it was still on the board, I'm confused. 65 hour line, I should have sat reserve:mad:

1. Start Pairings
2. Prefer Off Feb 11, 2012, Feb 12, 2012, Feb 13, 2012
Honored
3. Set Condition Minimum Base Layover 096:00
Honored
4. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3573
Pulled during shuffle: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)

5. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3802
Awarded to senior bidder: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)
6. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3509
Filtered by bid number 2: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)
7. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3804
3804 2012-02-18 22:25 2012-02-28 12:35 (065:46) (B)

(1 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 065:46)
8. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3533
Awarded to senior bidder: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 065:46)

Well maybe you get to go somewhere fun, like BKK or HNL? That's got to be a vacation, right?

Bill Lumberg 01-15-2012 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1117549)
Catching up on a bunch of topics.

-American 757's have RR engines:):):)
-I'm a Capt and my minimum is about 40-50% over the life of the contract, plus other things like scope, scheduling, DC plan etc. How about 20-25% at DOS then about 8, 8, and 8. I'm equally concerned about scope and JV's as much as pay.



Don't forget minimum day, like a calendar day, of 5:15 minimum for flying, training, and vacation.

chuck416 01-15-2012 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1117549)
Catching up on a bunch of topics.

-American 757's have RR engines:):):)
-I'm a Capt and my minimum is about 40-50% over the life of the contract, plus other things like scope, scheduling, DC plan etc. How about 20-25% at DOS then about 8, 8, and 8. I'm equally concerned about scope and JV's as much as pay.

Outstanding! I'm on-board with your thinking. Let us not forget, we ARE working under a concessionary contract (albeit with some improvements, and thank-you Negotiating Committee for those). Of course we don't negotiate in a vacuum, but SOMEBODY has to let the "air" back into this vacuum vessel we find ourselves in. Let it be us. The pilots of Delta Airlines. I sincerely hope that it is under the banner of Delta ALPA, in THIS section 6 negotiation process.
Regards,
Chuck


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