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johnso29 06-17-2009 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Box Office (Post 630669)
Now I am really confused. That makes as much sense as 4=3. Thanks though.

EV=ASA like DL=DAL or CO=CAL or NW=NWA. It's the two letter airline code for ASA, which is a regional airline for Delta. Callsign Acey. ;)

1234 06-17-2009 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 630349)
That's easy - don't bid the thing.

For the rest of us, I'd much rather have the choice of bidding a Delta job than being forced off the property to fly the same airplane and passengers for an alter ego subsidiary of Delta. I did not quit my job in the top 33% of a seniority list, interview, go through the big pay cut and MD88 just to find myself at a "regional" because my union outsourced me and my job. If at Compass, I want to keep my Delta uniform.

Hopefully we will have the option to bid the equipment. Mgmt would like 200 76 seaters at their disposal (aren't they currently limited to 90 something of them).

Box Office 06-17-2009 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 630674)
EV=ASA like DL=DAL or CO=CAL or NW=NWA. It's the two letter airline code for ASA, which is a regional airline for Delta. Callsign Acey. ;)

Ok, now it all makes sense, except for their shortened letters bear no resemblence to thier full name - like the others do - which is where I was getting hung up...and yes I know they are a regional for Delta, thanks again though.

Tomcat 06-17-2009 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 630610)
I lost a lot more than you did....

So thanks for the kind words but the underlying sentiment is something that we could probably do without. I wasn't born senior, been there done that, got the B-Scale t-shirt.

You're right Alfaromeo, it has been a hard decade. You have no idea what I've lost with my decision to come to Delta, but that was my decision and I have to live with the consequences of it. There are as many stories as pilots.......

Please just take a complement for what it is meant as, thanks for the change in your perspective.

V/R,

Tomcat

Superpilot92 06-17-2009 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 630675)
Hopefully we will have the option to bid the equipment. Mgmt would like 200 76 seaters at their disposal (aren't they currently limited to 90 something of them).

As of now they are capped on the number of 70 seaters (actually over).

beer 06-17-2009 09:01 PM

Wanna take a trip down memory lane? Go back to the first post by gaurd dude. Just read for a while and remember the tones and how they have changed. If anyone has time could you post a recap to this long thread? Just the topics. Thanks.

Dash8widget 06-17-2009 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 630675)
Hopefully we will have the option to bid the equipment. Mgmt would like 200 76 seaters at their disposal (aren't they currently limited to 90 something of them).

They can have as many 76 seaters as they want - as long as all of them over the cap are flown by mainline pilots. ;)

Nosmo King 06-17-2009 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 630528)
I can tell you that there are many guys that stayed in Dallas for this reason. It was stay or get divorced. I have about ten friends that had this ultimatum given to them.

This little experiment will cause a lot of people to become unwilling commuters.

NW already has a large percentage of commuters. DL not quite as large a percentage ... yet. Thus the move to get the DAL-N Call in Honest Policy impelmented at the new DL.

Rumor control has it that the major obstacle to getting the policy implemented is Capt. Dickson. Apparently they plugged in everyones ZIP codes and compared it to their base and the policy benefitted mostly DAL-N guys... duh...

I bet the benefits are more even about 2 years from now, very short sighted if true.

The other problem is that the FA's have a union certification election in the near future. I am betting they don't want to **** off the FA's by giving this to the pilots before that election.

If anyone can confirm or deny the part about Dickson being the road block please post in the thread.

More on the 787 sim after I skulk around NATCO.

sailingfun 06-18-2009 03:52 AM

I doubt Dickson had much to do with this. The NWA policy was just that. A policy. It was not contractual so it was hard to introduce it for the joint contract. Policies can change in a minute. The biggest problem with getting this implimented for the joint airline is that it goes against the entire culture Delta has had concerning non revenue travel. As a life long commuter it would be of great benefit to me. I just don't see it happening. As pointed out here before the commuting patterns at DALS are also quite different then the N. DTW and MSP tend to collect their commuters from all across the country. Delta commuters tend to be in specific areas such as Orlando and DFW. There would be flights out of DFW where you would have to positive space 40 pilots. They would bump revenue passengers and flight attendants trying to get to work not to mention families. Unless Delta sees major trip disruptions from pilots unable to get to work I will be willing to bet you never see this policy.

One other recent issue. If Delta puts this policy in place it ties them directly to the rest that pilot has had in the event of a incident. It would come up in court big time. Delta would have detailed knowledge of a incidents pilots rest prior to report and attempted flights. Think about this from a corporate legal standpoint and you can see huge problems after Colgan.

hockeypilot44 06-18-2009 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 630747)
I doubt Dickson had much to do with this. The NWA policy was just that. A policy. It was not contractual so it was hard to introduce it for the joint contract. Policies can change in a minute. The biggest problem with getting this implimented for the joint airline is that it goes against the entire culture Delta has had concerning non revenue travel. As a life long commuter it would be of great benefit to me. I just don't see it happening. As pointed out here before the commuting patterns at DALS are also quite different then the N. DTW and MSP tend to collect their commuters from all across the country. Delta commuters tend to be in specific areas such as Orlando and DFW. There would be flights out of DFW where you would have to positive space 40 pilots. They would bump revenue passengers and flight attendants trying to get to work not to mention families. Unless Delta sees major trip disruptions from pilots unable to get to work I will be willing to bet you never see this policy.

One other recent issue. If Delta puts this policy in place it ties them directly to the rest that pilot has had in the event of a incident. It would come up in court big time. Delta would have detailed knowledge of a incidents pilots rest prior to report and attempted flights. Think about this from a corporate legal standpoint and you can see huge problems after Colgan.

We do it. I usually commute in the night prior on the second to last flight. If I miss it, I take the last flight space positive. When they are both completely over-booked (jumpseats and pax seats), I go to the airport stress-free knowing I'm going to work. When we switch to Delta, I'm still going to the airport stress free. If I miss my flights, I am going to enjoy the next five days off with a sick call. The majority of the North pilots have this same attitude. We will eventually get our commuting policy back. The question is how long Delta waits. With our overstaffing situation, Delta can afford a bunch of sick calls so it might be awhile.


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