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you guys are funny, it's over time to move on. We gave, you gave arbitrators decided. Done

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 518236)

you guys are funny

Wonder if you would have posted that if his BS had gone unanswered.

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Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 518237)

Wonder if you would have posted that if his BS had gone unanswered.

actually my post wasn't about his or yours. It was about the last couple pages of "you got more! No you got more" bs. Thanks for asking

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 518241)

actually my post wasn't about his or yours. It was about the last couple pages of "you got more! No you got more" bs. Thanks for asking

A CS post rubbing in it in to a guy just hoping to still be able to work where he lives after this cluster is done was BS and required a response, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 518030)

I think the DELTA logo is too small. Would have looked much better if it were big enough to fill in the entire area below the upper deck windows.

I like the Delta logo on the tail, this side pointing to the northwest on the compass rose...

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Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 518227)

The difference in attrition was miniscule and covered by the pull and plug. DL guys losing seniority and upgrades in their bases was a freebie for you.

Try again, as the raw numbers are irrelevant. Figure the number of retirements based on PERCENTAGE of the pilots in each group. You will find the number very simiar to the relative seniority hit that NWA guys take in 10 years. Most NWA guys take at least a 12-15 percent hit starting 10 years out, and for some, it's much higher and is virtually unrecoverable. Even the younger guys wind up 400-500 PERCENT worse off at retirement (going from top 50 to top 500).

The only way to compensate this reduction in pay and QoL is get while the gettin' is good and grab what you can, when you can. Anyone know what the 76 -400 looks like in ATL? Or how about MD88 Captain? I got to maximize money and it's an easier commute....

Nu

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Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 518128)

DOH is not something that I've seen in ALPA national policy,

Date of Hire used to be the only methodology stated in ALPA merger policy. It was recently removed after the NWA/Republic merger because that arbitrator cited ALPA merger policy (preferring DOH) as the main reason he went with DOH. But because it skewed the ratios so badly, he instituted a 20 year fence off of each airline's pre-merger equipment.

ALPA never...I repeat NEVER had equipment based ratios in its policy. Not now, not ever.

Carl

It amazes what some people feel is entitled to them.

-Fatty

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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 518289)

It amazes what some people feel is entitled to them.

-Fatty

Yup. BOTH sides are definitely guilty of that.

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 518271)

Carl, I know you know that this is incorrect. As a former Western Pilot I can assure you that it is incorrect. I was well versed on ALPA merger policy in 1986. DOH was one aspect that could be considered in a merger among about 6 areas. The change was actually made in 1991 when DOH was removed as one of the items that could be considered. The other items remained essentially if not exactly the same. DOH was never ALPA merger policy ever!! It was a factor that could be used until 1991. Had it been ALPA merger policy there would never have been a arbitration with NWA and Republic. It would have gone just like AFA mergers. Compile the list and done with no negotiations. The same thing would have applied in the Delta and Western merger.