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Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 518072)

Shopping for upgrades? GMAFB.

How about wondering what damage control is available for the seniority I have left? Roughly 750 Delta Pilots hired after me will be forever senior to me, and benefiting from NW retirements ahead of me. Was going to retire as a WB Capt, now NB. Wanna trade places?

DALPA based a large part of their case, successfully, on the unfounded premise of the DC9's imminent demise. Now that it might be *your* aircraft it's unfair? We couldn't manage to negotiate a deal - it's all over now except for the crying (and the supplemental arbitration's)

Maybe DALPA will get off their @ss now and support the trip-rig agreed to in the JCBA to everyone's' benefit - even yours

More than likely you will still retire a widebody Ca. DOH is not something that I've seen in ALPA national policy. The US/Amwest and now our award have been consistent with Relative position. And yes, the 9's have been going away in large #'s. Im sure if the shoe was on the other foot you wouldn't want NW guys paying the price for loss of DAL equip. Oh yeah, the retirements from years 10-20 will be advantageous to the NWA pilots as the NWA retirements help the DAL guys from now -10 yrs.

Once we get through this economic "downturn" I think widebodies will be available to those who want them.

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 517913)

Mudhendrvr, I agree. I dont want to keep churning the same complaint but the lack of base/NB fences could hurt for us guys in LAX/SLC. Are you in one of those two bases? What is your company wide seniority from the bottom (ie 7%)?

Yup, I am SLC right now and I am much less than that 7%. I don't care what I fly, as long as it is west of the mississippi. I hope that will still be possible, but we will not know how it flows until the first couple of AE's. Either way, it is TNT movie re-runs at the crashpad on reserve for the next couple of years I fear.

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Originally Posted by Mudhendrvr (Post 518135)

.......Either way, it is TNT movie re-runs at the crashpad on reserve for the next couple of years I fear.

Don't forget CSI re-runs on Spike.:D

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 518076)

Sounds great but I am sure that each and every DCI carrier would take DAL to court and have a legal leg to stand on.
Miraculously their D-0, D-5, and A-14 numbers have all gone way up. Wonder why? It makes it very hard for DAL to do anything if they are doing their job!

Want to get rid of a DCI? There is a way to do this that makes it very hard for them to repudiate. It is a dirty business and will mean that DAL will get its hands dirty but can be done. The D-0, D-5, A-14 can all be changedwithout breaking any laws. You have to think outside the box and I do not want to mention it here. The question remains if the cost of the legal proceddings is less than the costs of reducing DCI's then it will happen. Until then we will pay the DCI's whether they fly an airplane or not.

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The next few months will give them the data they need to decided if and how may people are furloughed

Whoa.....F bomb!

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 518092)

I don't mean to offend anyone on the DCI side either, and I'm sure Compass doesn't like that we've drawn attention to them in this particular way. Hopefully we'll make it through unscathed on both ends.

I don't think that Compass pilots take any offense. Most of the guys that I've met are pretty pragmatic about our situation. Everyone in my class was furloughed from at least one airline, some from more than one.

These were mostly high-time ATA, Aloha, Spirit and Midwest guys. I think that with that experience comes the realization that furloughs are an inevitable part of this crazy industry and not the fault of other pilots. Should they occur as a result of contractually required flow-backs, I think that most guys would harbor no ill will. It's a part of the business and it was understood when we took the job. Doesn't make it any easier, but it's not the fault of any pilot.

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Originally Posted by obx41 (Post 518180)

I don't think that Compass pilots take any offense. Most of the guys that I've met are pretty pragmatic about our situation.

I am all for a mass expansion of Compass at the expense of the rest of DCI. For selfish reasons. Would love to see you with more planes than you have people. And in every base.

:D

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Originally Posted by Mudhendrvr (Post 518135)

You guys may have gotten a break on the attrition, but now:

"All your base are belong to us!" Mwhahahahaha.....

Sorry, couldn't help it. Be careful of what you ask for....you might get it.

Nu

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 518210)

You guys may have gotten a break on the attrition, but now:

"All your base are belong to us!" Mwhahahahaha.....

Sorry, couldn't help it. Be careful of what you ask for....you might get it.

Nu

The difference in attrition was miniscule and covered by the pull and plug. DL guys losing seniority and upgrades in their bases was a freebie for you. Meanwhile DL guys got no special consideration for the much larger number of retirements at T+10 years.