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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1122153)
Heard March is the current target, and minimal, if any reinstatement was echoed when asked about the 73N.
I am sure there will be some moving of a few seats, but they will try to keep training to a min for the summer months. |
Bill, thanks for the update...good info.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1122250)
So other than a bit more 88/90 positions, what do your tea leaves suggest this bid will be about? Do you think it will contain some of the 777/747 pulldowns coming back because of the lie flat mods or were those positions lost to the great rift of the universe?
I can't speak to the 747 fleet, but I know all our 777's have had the lie flat seats done, for a while already, so I doubt we'll see any openings posted there. |
I would vote for a 2 year contract with a 20 percent raise upfront followed by another 10 percent the following year if reserves are paid the same as lineholders per trip, and vacation and training credit is raised. That's not a bad raise upfront. 2 years will come and go in no time. I would do this because it looks like United, US Airways, and American are no where close to getting a contract. Someone has to lead the way. This is a good start to buy us some time for the other carriers to outdo us. Then we can outdo them in 2 years.
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1122207)
More rumors from the line. This time, from 2 320 Capts, one of which is a checkairman.
The fatigue/rest rule changes will now result in 750 newhires, supposedly stated by ES, a senior linecheck guy. Very few or no hiring this year, but approx 600 next year and a few after that due to those new rules and retirements. I mentioned that I thought the fatigue/rest rule changes would only result in modest hiring, to which they said the 750 was the new number. Contract is pretty much negotiated, but someone way up there wants initially a two year contract, due to those fatigue/rest rule changes, which will need a 4 year contract addressed when the rules become affective in 2 years. So, status quo rules wise with exception to what has recently been negotiated, and a 20% pay raise effective July of this year.(another rumor) About 50 old A320s that flew for NWA starting around 1988 are quickly approaching the cycle limit put out by Airbus. How can you replace those quickly, they run out of cycles in about 1 1/2 years. Could a merger or buying more used planes help? Who knows? That's all I have for rumors today, building on last week's DFW rumors. Have fun! Contract almost completely negotiated, coming from a LCA that came from a LCA meeting....wouldn't think so. I would imagine that the life cycle of the bus will be extended Airbus begins tests to extend service life of A320 family Continue on with the DFW rumors Airbus plans A320 life-extension - Asian Aviation |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1122207)
.......About 50 old A320s that flew for NWA starting around 1988 are quickly approaching the cycle limit put out by Airbus. How can you replace those quickly, they run out of cycles in about 1 1/2 years. Could a merger or buying more used planes help? Who knows?
That's all I have for rumors today, building on last week's DFW rumors. Have fun! |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 1121846)
PBS could use what is called a "global solution" to enable more people to hold lines.
I don't think you get it. PBS already allows for the maximum number of line holders. Changing the reserve guarantee has nothing to do with the number of line holders. Now, if you raise the guarantee, the company may not "hold" as many pilots in surplus in any given category and thus trickle down the displacements, but it has nothing to do with the number of line holders. |
I bid reserve on purpose. I am not in favor of raising the guarantee above 70.
I'd rather get paid the same for doing the same work. And paid for short call. tinkering with the min guarantee is to me asking for the trap door below you to be opened. ---- As to a 2-year 20% raise, I'm all for that... if we're paid by the duty hour. |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 1122278)
Goes against the recent aviation week article which stated that no new pilots would be required by the industry for the fatigue/rest rules. I would believe hiring just to get in front of the bow waving coming
Contract almost completely negotiated, coming from a LCA that came from a LCA meeting....wouldn't think so. I would imagine that the life cycle of the bus will be extended Airbus begins tests to extend service life of A320 family Continue on with the DFW rumors Airbus plans A320 life-extension - Asian Aviation My friend at Jetblue said they were told that they would have to hire an extra 200 due to the fatigue rule change. How much bigger are we compared to Jetblue? And, I asked them a couple times if that number was correct, and they said it was the NEW number produced by ES. Ask people in the check airman community who ES is. I never said the contract rumor was from the meeting. It did come from the 2 pilots, but not from the meeting. They were just giving me rumors that they had heard, and they didn't seem to be joking. As for the Airbus planes, just ask any Airbus checkairman what may happen. They can give you a better explanation than I did. I fly the MD. The DFW rumors also came from a different checkairmen, who was at the "lead" meeting with someone VERY high up. That is where the DFW rumors came from. The MD90 part is just trying to connect the dots. We get 20 this year, and 9 next year. Will they all replace the DC9s on every route? Maybe. |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1122290)
I'm not trying to be a scavenger here, but maybe one of you guys can explain it to me. How are American's Airbus and Boeing orders effected by the bankruptcy filings? Can another airline (Delta) swoop in and offer more money and get them?
That could be. Also, there could be an order out there for an additional 100 airplanes. |
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