Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-28-2012 | 04:32 PM
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Thanks George,
I didn't realize another probe was ongoing for STAR.
Come to think of it, we've reduced VERY aggressively on some routes, which caused yields to rise fairly dramatically (the call said +17% across the Atlantic). Maybe we're squeezing the goose a little tight by reducing offerings a little too much.
I don't understand your last statement. If AF/KLM is not profitable, it's because of their entire network. Presumably we're both doing equally well/poorly across the Atlantic. Why mess with it?
I didn't realize another probe was ongoing for STAR.
Come to think of it, we've reduced VERY aggressively on some routes, which caused yields to rise fairly dramatically (the call said +17% across the Atlantic). Maybe we're squeezing the goose a little tight by reducing offerings a little too much.
I don't understand your last statement. If AF/KLM is not profitable, it's because of their entire network. Presumably we're both doing equally well/poorly across the Atlantic. Why mess with it?
AirFranceKLM is still quoting Atlantic traffic up 9% capacity up 6.7% driven mainly by South America.
For the same time period, Delta Americas traffic is down 3.7% and capacity down 5%.
The profit sharing of the JV is on the shared route network only. The technical terms are Bundle 1 and Bundle 2 flying... IIRC Bundle 1 flying profit is shared 50/50 while bundle 2 flying gets the other side a 25% cut...
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George
01-28-2012 | 04:37 PM
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What a beautiful overhead panel. So well organized and logical. The brilliance of simplicity, capability, redundancy, efficiency and reliability all in one. The panel which set the standard other manufacturers followed and the general layout of jets being designed 50 years later on.
01-28-2012 | 04:49 PM
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01-28-2012 | 04:53 PM
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We're not. Delta has been significantly more aggressive in the pull down than AFKLM. That's why our production balance is below the share we had when Alitalia was added.
AirFranceKLM is still quoting Atlantic traffic up 9% capacity up 6.7% driven mainly by South America.
For the same time period, Delta Americas traffic is down 3.7% and capacity down 5%.
The profit sharing of the JV is on the shared route network only. The technical terms are Bundle 1 and Bundle 2 flying... IIRC Bundle 1 flying profit is shared 50/50 while bundle 2 flying gets the other side a 25% cut...
Cheers
George
AirFranceKLM is still quoting Atlantic traffic up 9% capacity up 6.7% driven mainly by South America.
For the same time period, Delta Americas traffic is down 3.7% and capacity down 5%.
The profit sharing of the JV is on the shared route network only. The technical terms are Bundle 1 and Bundle 2 flying... IIRC Bundle 1 flying profit is shared 50/50 while bundle 2 flying gets the other side a 25% cut...
Cheers
George
01-28-2012 | 05:01 PM
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Lockheed Star Lizard! ***? Hillarious. Buzz, in your overhead panel it looks like some gauges are missing above the generator switches?
01-28-2012 | 05:31 PM
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What a beautiful overhead panel. So well organized and logical. The brilliance of simplicity, capability, redundancy, efficiency and reliability all in one. The panel which set the standard other manufacturers followed and the general layout of jets being designed 50 years later on.
And to continue our overhead panel porn, talk about keeping it simple:
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01-28-2012 | 05:32 PM
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As luck would have it, I've known some of the engineers and flight test people on the MD80/90. Douglas really did die because they were undercapitalized and refused to do anything "new." It was thought that a derivative design was cheaper to execute. Instead they had an expensive to build airplane that sold cheaply. They could never drive the sort of efficiency of manufacture or price premium that Boeing was able to command. Douglas would end up spending more trying to make an old design work than if they had bitten the bullet and just created a clean sheet design. The derivative MD11 was the final straw.
The MD88/90 is the "Moneyball" of airplane design. "There's rich teams, there is poor teams, there is 50 feet of crap then there is us." Yet the Oakland A's won more consecuive games making the most of a cheap team than any of their rich competitors.
The joke about getting FAA Certification late in the day on Friday was told to me as true by the guy who submitted it.
Capt. Carl knows some of these same people. It would be interesting if he chimed in.
01-28-2012 | 05:41 PM
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01-28-2012 | 05:54 PM
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From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift
–AF/KL/AZ/DL
Bundle 1 flights are 50/50 profit split
Bundle 1 flights from US/Canada/Mex to Europe –India, PPT
Bundle 2 flights are 25% profit contribution above a margin
Bundle 2 flights are Africa/ME/N South America
“Beyonds” revenue also shared
–25% of beyond revenue is shared on a per pax basis
–Raises threshold for non-stop profitability
Bundle 1 flights are 50/50 profit split
Bundle 1 flights from US/Canada/Mex to Europe –India, PPT
Bundle 2 flights are 25% profit contribution above a margin
Bundle 2 flights are Africa/ME/N South America
“Beyonds” revenue also shared
–25% of beyond revenue is shared on a per pax basis
–Raises threshold for non-stop profitability
Cheers
George
Last edited by georgetg; 01-28-2012 at 06:00 PM. Reason: The more you know...;-)
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