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01-19-2012 | 10:02 AM

#86121

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From: Light Chop

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Originally Posted by Boomer

...The A380 -- developed at an estimated cost of 12 billion euros and built in Britain, France, Germany and Spain -- has enough room on its wings to park 70 cars and a wingspan of 79.8m (261ft 10in)...

No wonder the wings are cracking - the idiots are parking cars on them.

Europeans do weird things. But generally we copy them so I think it wont be long til we park cars on the wings of our aircraft. For those who live in South Georgia and pride yourself on your trucks ability to go muddin' then getting on top of a CRJ200 wing will be very easy.

01-19-2012 | 10:27 AM

#86122

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From: MD88 A

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Originally Posted by The Cavalier

Like I said, I welcome the transparency to assignment of SC's. I just hope the language leaves some flexibility in there to allow schedulers to continue to use guys with multiple days of availability. I figure it will as I have a hard time believing that they would sign anything that did otherwise.

I think you are correct in your assertion that when things pick up the system will make more sense. As a junior guy I just hope that slow times are slow for everyone not just a few

I think the use of YS'ing will be even more important now for the junior rsv pilots.

Just got off the phone with ALPA schedualing guy, they think new system is wonderful and have no idea that many of us will be adversely affected. My category is overstaffed and not many will be able to leave the eighty point bucket, even if they are first up everyday. I've gone from line holder to junior reserve within the last year. I did not choose this, just making the best of it.
I think the eighty point bucket is too large, one four day trip should at least get you into the next level. If you agree call DALPA, as far as they are concerned they just hit a home run.

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01-19-2012 | 10:49 AM

#86123

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From: DAL

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Originally Posted by Tab Flyer

Just got off the phone with ALPA schedualing guy, they think new system is wonderful and have no idea that many of us will be adversely affected.

Well, to be fair, the whole reason for negotiating this LOA was so that those "adversely affected" are affected based on seniority, and not on an arbitrary and opaque basis.

Naturally, junior guys who were able to tweak the system and get better deals (often at odds with their seniority) may feel some discomfort in the pants. But frankly, I'm glad that the system will more accurately address seniority.

01-19-2012 | 10:59 AM

#86124

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From: MD musical chairs

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Originally Posted by More Bacon

Well, to be fair, the whole reason for negotiating this LOA was so that those "adversely affected" are affected based on seniority, and not on an arbitrary and opaque basis.

Naturally, junior guys who were able to tweak the system and get better deals (often at odds with their seniority) are in for some discomfort. Frankly, I'm glad that the system will more accurately address seniority.

Seniority should rule, Tab, don't you agree?

No one was "tweaking" the system. Furthermore, I have no problem with seniority weighing more heavily but as Tab pointed out, if you are in a fat category, I fear that a few of us are going to be doing virtually all the work all month long. Should a junior guy be either sitting SC or on a trip almost every day of availability while the top 10-20% of reserves do at most 3 SC's a month? 80 raw is pretty high in a lot of categories right now. That's my issue. The number should be more like 50-60 allowing a trip and a SC or two before we inconvenience a senior guy to go fly.

01-19-2012 | 11:04 AM

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From: DAL

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Originally Posted by The Cavalier

Should a junior guy be either sitting SC or on a trip almost every day of availability while the top 10-20% of reserves do at most 3 SC's a month?

To play devil's advocate: Should a junior guy have to do all the 30 hour FAR layovers/redeyes/(insert your category's bad deal here) while the top 10-20% take all the day turns or 3-day Rome trips?

01-19-2012 | 11:11 AM

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From: MD88 A

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Originally Posted by More Bacon

In three months, after they have increased the flying by more than twenty-five percent, I'll be a senior reserve. I'll still will have issues with the size of the buckets. Back in the old days we had a higher guarantee, move ups and SRLs. Now it's just seventy hours pay and god help you if you are the junior guy in an overstaffed category.

01-19-2012 | 11:13 AM

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Basically I'm just say that seniority should have a benefit, but the correction we are applying next month is too large.

01-19-2012 | 11:25 AM

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From: DAL

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Originally Posted by Tab Flyer

. Back in the old days we had a higher guarantee

We definitely need to fix the low guarantee.

01-19-2012 | 11:50 AM

#86129

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From: 737 ATL

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Originally Posted by More Bacon

Naturally, junior guys who were able to tweak the system and get better deals (often at odds with their seniority) may feel some discomfort in the pants. But frankly, I'm glad that the system will more accurately address seniority.

Seniority should rule, Tab, don't you agree?

Now you're talkin'.

This vacation bidding that is going on right now is a perfect example. Whassup with that? The #1 guy should be able to bid all of his vacation right off the bat. None of this primary, secondary, tertiary stuff. Total violation of seniority there.
Let pilot #1 have Christmas, Thanksgiving, 4th of July and his wife's birthday and only when he's done -- start processing the #2 guy's bids.

Except for the very bottom new hires, Juniority is a choice.

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