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Old 02-06-2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Unfreaking believable. Our healthcare options BLOW, slowplay. I'm literally at a loss for words other than just sitting here shaking my head.

UHC is a good healthcare provider, but our options are so dang limited under the plans we have and there's so much out of pocket... it's ridiculous. I was excited when I got hired and saw UHC... but it's been a big disappointment.

Even worse that I know you're on the inside at ALPA...
So, what are you going to do about it?

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Old 02-06-2012 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
So, what are you going to do about it?

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I put it in my contract survey.

I guess I'll hold my breath, close my eyes and jump up and down.

The better question is, other than joining the military, what can I do about it?
Old 02-06-2012 | 05:23 PM
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Good lord-from talking to quite a few of my swa buds, our healthcare is lacking. For example, one mentioned that his net out of pocket last year (including monthly premiums, co-pays, prescriptions) was $2,000 for a family of 5 (spouse, 2, 4, and 8). ER visits, multiple DR visits, etc. That's $166/month. All covered in their cba.
The rub is that they make 40% less than DAL pilots.
Old 02-06-2012 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Good lord-from talking to quite a few of my swa buds, our healthcare is lacking. For example, one mentioned that his net out of pocket last year (including monthly premiums, co-pays, prescriptions) was $2,000 for a family of 5 (spouse, 2, 4, and 8). ER visits, multiple DR visits, etc. That's $166/month. All covered in their cba.
The rub is that they make 40% less than DAL pilots.
The plan I had at the regional I worked for was UHC, had a much better network, less than max half out of pocket and the premiums for the PPO were (get this): $15.

My friend that is now at USair- he pays $27 dollars a month for a PPO.

I rightly expected similar for a top tier company like Delta, because after all our contract is better than both of those places, right? I guess since slowplay is satisfied, it's all good.
Old 02-06-2012 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

The better question is, other than joining the military, what can I do about it?
Kick out these clowns.
Old 02-06-2012 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I hate to be the Debbie Downer here, but flying big airplanes like this is ridiculous. Hasn't the Air Force learned enough tough lessons? I would imagine that an engine failure or prop malfunction during one of those high bank nose high turns wouldn't end with good results.
It may be unsafe, but that's badass.
Old 02-06-2012 | 05:30 PM
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From Slowplay's above post: The family cost $4500 out of pocket (plus premiums).

OK, but $4500/12 is $375 a month, PLUS PREMIUMS.

So what are the Diamond Premiums? Add that in.

My premiums for the Gold plan are $400/mo. with a wife and 4 kids. In addition to that, I put $300/mo. into my FSA just to cover all the crap UHC doesn't, and the eyes and braces. So I'm paying at least $700/mo. for coverage (that's $8,400/yr.) and that's if NOBODY GETS HURT or Sick.

If/when they do (and with 4 kids, someone is always hurt or sick) add in the $2,000 deductible and we are at $10,400/yr. Add in the braces, eye exams and glasses, oh, and the Dentist, and we are well above $12,000/yr. or $1,000/month.

Don't get me started on what eye care (all 4 kids in glasses, and nobody in my world takes Davis insurance) and braces (3 of the 4 kids had braces, which are not even coverd at 50%) in addition to the medical premiums.
Old 02-06-2012 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I put it in my contract survey.

I guess I'll hold my breath, close my eyes and jump up and down.

The better question is, other than joining the military, what can I do about it?
Sigh...Clamp, ya know I love you like a brother, BUT, your's are the words of defeat.

If you don't like the slate of committee chairman, work to fix it.

Won't get fixed, you say? Recall your local reps. ALL of them. No BS. No "well, he's a good guy"...recall him (or her) and vote in someone else.

While you're at it, get some resolutions passed that provides for MEC election of ALL committee chairs, publishing all of the FPL and require everyone on the MEC to wear fuzzy pink bunny suits. Put some check and balance into the system.

Put your money where your mouth is. Not just you, but every single person here who ****es and moans about the status quo.

You're a sharp, funny guy Clamp. You could run a website www.recallallthereps.com. You could coordinate the actions of multiple councils, and, by the looks of things, you have a willing audience here to start with.

THIS is the major failing of the DPA, and why they remain a sideshow.

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Old 02-06-2012 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
Kick out these clowns.
Improper attitude. Always take the high road.

"Today we announce the recall of the entire group of council XX representitives. We thank them for their service to the pilot group, and wish them well, however the pilot group has spoken, and it was found that their talents are no longer aligned with the desires of the pilot group.

Futher, we also wish to thank the departing MEC chair and the following committee chairmen....."

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Old 02-06-2012 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I hate to be the Debbie Downer here, but flying big airplanes like this is ridiculous. Hasn't the Air Force learned enough tough lessons? I would imagine that an engine failure or prop malfunction during one of those high bank nose high turns wouldn't end with good results.
So you're saying that a B-52 with 8 good engines can still clip the ground when flown outside the envelope?
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