Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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I think it is: You can drink them pretty, but you can't drink them rich.
If you drink soju, you can drink yourself rich. I think it is the 2nd stage. 1. I am handsome. 2. I am rich 3. I am invisible. Timbo, don't try to get to stage 3 next month, because you are not really invisible.
If you drink soju, you can drink yourself rich. I think it is the 2nd stage. 1. I am handsome. 2. I am rich 3. I am invisible. Timbo, don't try to get to stage 3 next month, because you are not really invisible.
Heyas,
Guys, change is available to us, all you need to do is put that anger, angst and self-pity towards a directed use.
I, for one, am tired of whiney crybabies that won't do more than sign a slip of paper, or act like petulant children.
The rules are in place to eject all the committee people, LEC reps, MEC hangers on... and all the rest of the entrenched people you love to hate. Heck, you have the power to pull the plug on their 87 hour "average" pay...you could even set it to zero.
It's right there, in black and white...published right on the MEC website. You have the means of FREE communication to oganize your little band of merry men...back in the day, the APA guys did it with long distance they had to pay for, and mimeograph machines that cost real money to operate.
You guys can't even put together a flash mob for the MEC meeting to tell them how you really feel because everyone is too busy with their side gig, home business, soccer practice, remodeling the den, or trimming the herbacious borders. So you reap what you sow, and have the nerve to complain about it when the very people you espose to hate poke you with a stick through the cage bars.
Real change requires real action, and not just a bunch of caterwalling on a free internet forum by a clutter of cats.
Man up, or sierra tango foxtrot uniform.
Nu
Guys, change is available to us, all you need to do is put that anger, angst and self-pity towards a directed use.
I, for one, am tired of whiney crybabies that won't do more than sign a slip of paper, or act like petulant children.
The rules are in place to eject all the committee people, LEC reps, MEC hangers on... and all the rest of the entrenched people you love to hate. Heck, you have the power to pull the plug on their 87 hour "average" pay...you could even set it to zero.
It's right there, in black and white...published right on the MEC website. You have the means of FREE communication to oganize your little band of merry men...back in the day, the APA guys did it with long distance they had to pay for, and mimeograph machines that cost real money to operate.
You guys can't even put together a flash mob for the MEC meeting to tell them how you really feel because everyone is too busy with their side gig, home business, soccer practice, remodeling the den, or trimming the herbacious borders. So you reap what you sow, and have the nerve to complain about it when the very people you espose to hate poke you with a stick through the cage bars.
Real change requires real action, and not just a bunch of caterwalling on a free internet forum by a clutter of cats.
Man up, or sierra tango foxtrot uniform.
Nu
I know we have stuff we need to fix but I get so sick of ppl that can't stop B1tching. I think maybe some of these people should put all this energy into fixing the problem and give up some of their APC posting time.
I always say if your not willing to give up your time to do the job dont complain about how someone else is doing it.
ALPA guys don't think I don't expect a good contract like the rest of the pilot group. Just like to say I appreciate your time.
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You're killing me man. Of course it was sarcasm. I honestly don't see what you are *****ing about. The new reserve system (that you don't like) still honors senior pilots far less than the old, old (pre-BK) system that guys still wax poetic about.
The three-part bottom line is this:
1. This new system was created because that is what the pilots told their LEC reps, and thus the negotiators--over and over--that this is what they wanted. Do you fault the union for working out a new system with the company that reflects the "will of the pilot?"
The three-part bottom line is this:
1. This new system was created because that is what the pilots told their LEC reps, and thus the negotiators--over and over--that this is what they wanted. Do you fault the union for working out a new system with the company that reflects the "will of the pilot?"
I'm reminded of the time a few years ago when I flew with the senior VP of Flight Ops. He was telling me that the complaining from the NYC-based pilots about the number of trips originating in EWR got so loud that crew resources was directed to greatly reduce the number of EWR-based trips (for non-DAL types, "NYC" based pilots can have trips built that start in EWR, LGA, or JFK: they are responsible for covering trips for all three airports). So what happened then? All the pilots who lived in Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania started bombarding the company with complaints!
No matter what the company or union does, there will always be naysayers.
No matter what the company or union does, there will always be naysayers.
It's more about the message it will send.
Yes, I'm aware of the 4000. I'm hitting the Dave Ramsey plan hard right now so I'll be ready if and when the time comes.
Well, if you're gonna be up there for 19 hours, you might as well have some fun.
It must have been flown by a former Air Force pilot, though- Writing the company logo probably seemed like a "neat idea."
Had a Navy guy been at the controls we'd be looking at a two-thousand mile long phallus...
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
I think it is: You can drink them pretty, but you can't drink them rich.
If you drink soju, you can drink yourself rich. I think it is the 2nd stage. 1. I am handsome. 2. I am rich 3. I am invisible. Timbo, don't try to get to stage 3 next month, because you are not really invisible.
If you drink soju, you can drink yourself rich. I think it is the 2nd stage. 1. I am handsome. 2. I am rich 3. I am invisible. Timbo, don't try to get to stage 3 next month, because you are not really invisible.
So what is this soju thing you are speaking of and explain to me further how i can become invisible?
underboob.
underboob.
Haha!
Well, if you're gonna be up there for 19 hours, you might as well have some fun.
It must have been flown by a former Air Force pilot, though- Writing the company logo probably seemed like a "neat idea."
Had a Navy guy been at the controls we'd be looking at a two-thousand mile long phallus...
Well, if you're gonna be up there for 19 hours, you might as well have some fun.
It must have been flown by a former Air Force pilot, though- Writing the company logo probably seemed like a "neat idea."
Had a Navy guy been at the controls we'd be looking at a two-thousand mile long phallus...
All the while going "that's what she said!!!" while drawing a big phallus across the US.
It'll likely be less funny in the morning after the beer wears off, but it's a funny thought for now.
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Hey, I feel for you, but that's not my fight. And honestly, in your case it sounds more like a product of the equipment you desire to fly vs the equipment you could fly but with a better schedule. If it's sarcasm then OK, but sarcasm doesn't offer a reasoned and thought out counter to what I brought up. But maybe that's all there is for a rebuttal. That and seniority first and foremost above all else, no matter how it harms a fellow pilot.
First, I was being sarcastic. Second, isn't the part that I bolded pertain to a fair amount of those complaining about the new rules for reserve? Also, somebody has to be junior. I have also been consistently moving backwards in my seat and base. I understand what it is like to be the junior guy (I wore the red hat at the fNWA). Our entire system is built on seniority. Frankly, reserve should be a system whereby if there is one pilot junior to you that can do any of the trip, it should go to the most junior up until they time out.
Also, it is my understanding that the company and ALPA can change the bucket values on a monthly basis and this new process is only two weeks old. I am junior on my equipment and junior system wide so I get it. It sucks being junior but there are a few thousand pilots out there that wish they could be the junior guy/gal dealing with our issues. And no, I am not saying that we shouldnt voice our discontent or objections, but I just think it has been a little over the top lately.
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Not saying...better to go to the art sale now.


