Anything change since then?

A conservative is someone who has something to conserve. You've got what you think is a pretty good deal. Hey, I was sincere when stating "good for you." Hope we all get to enjoy your contentment some day. Heck, it would be nice to have just one job.

The economic reality is that with inflation $50,000 in 1980 is $140,000 today. After five years, I'm making an inflation adjusted $35,000 circa 1980. Next year that will be an inflation adjusted $31,000. Not sure what your B scale was, but my father's B scale was more than that.

How many of your First Officers hold second, or even third, jobs? Delta hires good people who have skills (or can rapidly adapt) to other opportunities. Don't take is personally that some are looking around and saying, "jeesh, why stay here when there is more money to be made elsewhere." If anything, a few pilots departing for Emirates, direct entry Captain positions, other airlines and corporate might help you negotiate a better contract. If a guy makes more income from his outside work, then a Delta displacement threatens that income, what would you expect them to do?

It isn't class war fare. It's more along the lines of your taking personally the fact that with its bad scope, outsourcing and displacements, there might be better jobs out there. If the Company has no need for pilots (no hiring and more PERP's) then isn't a long leave to pursue other opportunities a win / win?

We love home grown tomatoes. Rather than wasting them trying to hit your First Officers, give them to me. ... and you're a better looking man than you give yourself credit for.

 

Can't help but hear the line from Pulp Fiction in my head: "We'd have to be talking about one charming mother f@#$!ng pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm saying?"

 

Bar;

Are you bucking for a position with SpacKlair?

Seems like you've lost that lovin feeling for your current collective bargaining agent.

 

Heyas,

Guys, change is available to us, all you need to do is put that anger, angst and self-pity towards a directed use.

I, for one, am tired of whiney crybabies that won't do more than sign a slip of paper, or act like petulant children.

The rules are in place to eject all the committee people, LEC reps, MEC hangers on... and all the rest of the entrenched people you love to hate. Heck, you have the power to pull the plug on their 87 hour "average" pay...you could even set it to zero.

It's right there, in black and white...published right on the MEC website. You have the means of FREE communication to oganize your little band of merry men...back in the day, the APA guys did it with long distance they had to pay for, and mimeograph machines that cost real money to operate.

You guys can't even put together a flash mob for the MEC meeting to tell them how you really feel because everyone is too busy with their side gig, home business, soccer practice, remodeling the den, or trimming the herbacious borders. So you reap what you sow, and have the nerve to complain about it when the very people you espose to hate poke you with a stick through the cage bars.

Real change requires real action, and not just a bunch of caterwalling on a free internet forum by a clutter of cats.

Man up, or sierra tango foxtrot uniform.

Nu

 

Nu,

If that's a reply to my post, then you misread the intent. I think our current MEC is doing a good job. Frustration is being vented the way it should be, towards this management, who operates Delta jets only if some other outsourcing opportunity is not available. Our large RJ's are maxed out (255). Our JV is beyond its agreed limits (which is allowed due to the temporarily suspended enforcement window).

It isn't that Delta is not selling tickets. It isn't that they are not making money. It isn't that they are not moving people ... they are doing it all without the participation of the Delta pilots ... I have a problem with that. Support for our bargaining agent, our MEC and our Reps is the best way to (hopefully) restore some of that work to Delta's pilots.

... as far as "manning up" I'm open to suggestions. Legally, there is not a whole lot we can do. When I see our LGA flying going to ALPA bustin' GoJets I see no reason not to call it what it is.

 

Here is an interesting tidbit from mmdnewswire.com,

"Let's take a quick, high-level look at insider trading at Delta Air Lines Inc /de/ over the past 12 months. A total of 654,185 shares of Delta Air Lines Inc /de/ stock was sold by insiders, totaling $7,041,285. Over the same time 12 month time period, no shares of Delta Air Lines Inc /de/ were purchased by company insiders."

The full article Delta Air Lines Inc /de/ (DAL): USD 554K of stock sold by Edward Bastian

Theories anyone?

 

Especially when efficiency is defined by the HVCs as "Let's sling the hash as quickly as we can so we can retire to the galley and gossip while we chow down on the FO meals."

 

The second statement would be more valid if your bargaining agent, MEC, and reps agreed with your first statement. Haven't seen many signs they do, not with any particular urgency anyways.

 

Sorry if I didn't phrase that well. I'm fNWA and have guys hired at Big D after my NWA date that are further up the list than me - ~1800 of them. I'm still astounded at the number of DAL guys I've had on the j.s. that don't know how the list was integrated, and no I usually don't bring it up unless the dude is complaining about fNWA guys bumping them out of their seats. I'm really not still fighting that battle, and I don't know any NWA guys who want to revisit the list, I'm just not looking forward to it happening again with the next integration. Because like it or not, the demographics of our group looks more and more like the old NWA. In some ways, the sooner the consolidation happens the better for us.That is one of the common threats we all face now.

Also, for the record, if NWA was still a stand alone I believe we'd be shrunk down to a dried turd at this point; for DAL you guys would have such a huge target on you life would be so much more unpleasant and unstable than it is now.

 

I dont know which is worse, the above or his Go F-!? yourself attitude towards those who don't sing ALPA praises, as if ALPA is infallible. Never once have I seen him not defend it tooth and nail. Not even a yup we could have done better or yup that could be better. It's always they are the best.