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Old 02-11-2012, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234 View Post
While it is great that we are getting new airplanes, they have zero growth for our airline. As it stands now, they are a one for one replacement, and unfortunately, they are replacing a sizable number of larger paying equipment.
Bingo. Very soon, the 747/777 aircraft and rates will shrink considerably. Soon average CA rates will go from $190/hr to $160/hr with the introduction of the 737-900s.
Someone's been attending Penn and Teller's "Sleight of Hand" symposium.

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Old 02-11-2012, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Anyone know how NWA had intended to deploy the 787-8? Just curious.
NWA had ordered the 787 as a hedge against Japan "open skies" making Narita economically obsolete. They learned from Delta management's experience when the 1996 German open skies killed Frankfurt in 1997. The hubs were quite similar...slot and environmental controlled, using just over 300 slots per week and served from 9 US origin markets with 17 beyond destinations. Japan "open skies" really aren't, but there is room for only two alliance partners there. All Nipon is with Star, and JAL is with oneworld. As long as Haneda access is somewhat restricted NRT will do OK. If Haneda ever truly opens and Delta doesn't get a significant slot and gate portfolio, NRT will be like LHR vs LGW. It will become the discount and secondary destination airport.
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
They are at the 255 max, unless they start getting Dash 8 Q 400's.
Or unless Delta buys someone who has an agreement with someone to fly Q 400s. Like Horizon. (who by the way, just got rid of all their CRJ700s last year).
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
I can't believe no one has quoted this. I'm still laughing from when I saw this on my phone on the employee bus earlier today.
No one wants "demerits" or a ban. Great flying - that's a wide dme arc!
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer View Post
Or unless Delta buys someone who has an agreement with someone to fly Q 400s. Like Horizon. (who by the way, just got rid of all their CRJ700s last year).
Yep.. and a number of those are now flying under Delta colors (of course not by Delta pilots, though).
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Old 02-11-2012, 04:59 PM
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FYI only. Delta has over 120 aircraft on order and another 30 on option that are scheduled to come on line over the next 6 years (737-900 and MD-90). DCI has 1. Delta is about 60 aircraft smaller than at the merger. DCI is over 100 aircraft smaller.
As always, Slow's press releases are only part of the truth:

1) How many of those DAL aircraft on order are slated to replace airframes currently on the property?

2) DCI is 100 aircraft smaller....what was the change of gauge of the DCI makeup? How many of the smaller 50 seat RJs, which do not directly replace mainline flying, left the DCI property, in exchange for 70-76 seat airframes arriving, which DO replace mainline flying?

It's great if 200 50 seaters left the DCI property. Whats not so great is when they are replaced by 100 76 seat aircraft that parks 100 aircraft at the mainline.

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Old 02-11-2012, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy View Post
As always, Slow's press releases are only part of the truth:

1) How many of those DAL aircraft on order are slated to replace airframes currently on the property?

2) DCI is 100 aircraft smaller....what was the change of gauge of the DCI makeup? How many of the smaller 50 seat RJs, which do not directly replace mainline flying, left the DCI property, in exchange for 70-76 seat airframes arriving, which DO replace mainline flying?

It's great if 200 50 seaters left the DCI property. Whats not so great is when they are replaced by 100 76 seat aircraft that parks 100 aircraft at the mainline.

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Old 02-11-2012, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Agreed and thanks, though to be an apples to apples comparison we would have to go back to 2000 when the change beagn. To get the post merger "big picture" would we need to include Air France / KLM, Mexicana (since the investment), GOL and Alaska in the mix?

What is your thought on "Outsourcing is an abrogation of seniority" ?

I am aware of Delta's orders and thankful for them. Would be nice if we had 787's to replace the 757's instead of 737's and MD90's. Anyone know how NWA had intended to deploy the 787-8? Just curious.
it is interesting to see the dom of the aircraft in the fleet...



sure the 739s will be coming in soon but they'll be replacing airplanes already charted here.
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Old 02-11-2012, 05:27 PM
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When are we just going to order these things...



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Old 02-11-2012, 05:34 PM
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Those C Series are nice looking airplanes. I'm a little concerned that some of our brethren will not be interested in flying them because it doesn't say Boeing or Airbus on it though. After the Compass give away I don't know what some of those more senior guys want
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