Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-15-2012, 05:56 AM
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So I get my schedule and every trip is un-commutable. I go and check the reasons report to find out it's exactly what I asked for. I clicked "award" instead of "avoid" when I was bidding. You live and learn I guess. Need to be more careful next time. Now to use PCS and try and make it better.
02-15-2012, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Finally, if you've ever wondered how DAL mgt.'s bonuses are calculated, exhibits 10.15 and 10.17 (.pdf file pgs. 104 - 127) detail those specifics for you.
02-15-2012, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I realize I'm kind of opening a pandora's box here. Or in layman's terms, I'm a cat that's accidentally walked into the bar at a Holiday Inn south of Cleveland where all the SWA pilots are getting half off beer specials.
But, I wanted to see years of service for various places on the seniority list.
Please ignore the NWA/DAL differences because it's a different topic but if I didn't do both then it wouldn't have been accurate and someone would've corrected it.
BTW, 11 years of seniority barely, by two numbers, holds a weekends off line on ATLM88B.
But, I wanted to see years of service for various places on the seniority list.
Please ignore the NWA/DAL differences because it's a different topic but if I didn't do both then it wouldn't have been accurate and someone would've corrected it.
BTW, 11 years of seniority barely, by two numbers, holds a weekends off line on ATLM88B.
"Please ignore the NWA/DAL differences..." is kind of like hearing "The jury will disregard what was just said..."
02-15-2012, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The 739 deliveries are not net positive. We are not planning any growth and the current plan is for there to be a one for one replacement of an existing jet with those orders.
We are currently at 709 mainline jets. We need to go to 767(merger number of total jets) before they can add the 154 76 seat jet. Because management knows that will not happen, they have basically added a ton of 70 seat jets to the point that we are within 7 70/76 seat jets for the total 255 cap. If we get the 767th jet back on property, the total number does not go above 255, only the number of 76 seat jets is raised. It is three for one, so if we got jet 767, they would go from 153 allowed to 156.
We are currently at 709 mainline jets. We need to go to 767(merger number of total jets) before they can add the 154 76 seat jet. Because management knows that will not happen, they have basically added a ton of 70 seat jets to the point that we are within 7 70/76 seat jets for the total 255 cap. If we get the 767th jet back on property, the total number does not go above 255, only the number of 76 seat jets is raised. It is three for one, so if we got jet 767, they would go from 153 allowed to 156.
255 is a HARD CAP. No more jets in the 51-76 seat category.
the "3 for 1" is merely to allow a "71-76" seat jet within the 255.
IF DAL gets to 767th mainline active airframe(not orders or options), they "can" pull out 3 70 seat jets and replace them with 3 71-76 seat jets.
there is no metric that can grow large rj's over 255 for any reason whatsoever.
If we do not see at TA that continues to reduce limits on small jet outsourcing AND forces all current and future large jet "JV/codeshare agreements" into production balances, there will be a NO vote from this guy.
"Permitted aircraft types" needs to disappear altogether from Section 1 over the next few cycles.... The only persons "permitted" to fly Delta (and Skyteam in the US) painted/coded/operated flights should be pilots on the Delta Air Lines Pilot Master Seniority List.
Unity is leverage.
02-15-2012, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Why did you post this? "Please ignore the NWA/DAL differences..." is kind of like hearing "The jury will disregard what was just said..."
"Please ignore the NWA/DAL differences..." is kind of like hearing "The jury will disregard what was just said..."The ignore the differences was meant because the list and merger is done and i didnt want to rehah the sli. I just wanted or thought at some point we need to be able to look at the list and ask what it's like to be a Delta pilot in terms of longevity and bidding power. So I put both.
02-15-2012, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Yes, and to reiterate:
255 is a HARD CAP. No more jets in the 51-76 seat category.
the "3 for 1" is merely to allow a "71-76" seat jet within the 255.
IF DAL gets to 767th mainline active airframe(not orders or options), they "can" pull out 3 70 seat jets and replace them with 3 71-76 seat jets.
there is no metric that can grow large rj's over 255 for any reason whatsoever.
If we do not see at TA that continues to reduce limits on small jet outsourcing AND forces all current and future large jet "JV/codeshare agreements" into production balances, there will be a NO vote from this guy.
"Permitted aircraft types" needs to disappear altogether from Section 1 over the next few cycles.... The only persons "permitted" to fly Delta (and Skyteam in the US) painted/coded/operated flights should be pilots on the Delta Air Lines Pilot Master Seniority List.
Unity is leverage.
255 is a HARD CAP. No more jets in the 51-76 seat category.
the "3 for 1" is merely to allow a "71-76" seat jet within the 255.
IF DAL gets to 767th mainline active airframe(not orders or options), they "can" pull out 3 70 seat jets and replace them with 3 71-76 seat jets.
there is no metric that can grow large rj's over 255 for any reason whatsoever.
If we do not see at TA that continues to reduce limits on small jet outsourcing AND forces all current and future large jet "JV/codeshare agreements" into production balances, there will be a NO vote from this guy.
"Permitted aircraft types" needs to disappear altogether from Section 1 over the next few cycles.... The only persons "permitted" to fly Delta (and Skyteam in the US) painted/coded/operated flights should be pilots on the Delta Air Lines Pilot Master Seniority List.
Unity is leverage.
B-I-N-G-O
We as a pilot group need to see organic growth and a pay raise alone just gives you more pay for stagnation.
02-15-2012, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
For those of you wondering why there is another negative-ish bid coming up, as well as little positive news from JG today... have some freaking perspective!!!
WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. THEY WILL NOT SAY POSITIVE THINGS BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN THEIR INTERESTS.
Don't let it get to you... I swear you'd think most of the people here haven't been through a section 6 before. It is how it goes. Just roll your eyes and move on.
WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. THEY WILL NOT SAY POSITIVE THINGS BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN THEIR INTERESTS.
Don't let it get to you... I swear you'd think most of the people here haven't been through a section 6 before. It is how it goes. Just roll your eyes and move on.
On a lighter, less sarcastic note looks like March bids are up.
02-15-2012, 06:46 AM
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It's amazing how senior reserve is going in March on ATL88B. I counted almost 50 pilots voluntarily bidding reserve while there's only about 20 on reserve involuntarily.
02-15-2012, 06:58 AM
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Side question:
For slip requests, is the APD a guaranteed drop for up to 3 days that can only be utilized once a year and a PD can be used multiple times but may not be approved each request?
For slip requests, is the APD a guaranteed drop for up to 3 days that can only be utilized once a year and a PD can be used multiple times but may not be approved each request?
02-15-2012, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The ignore the differences was meant because the list and merger is done and i didnt want to rehah the sli. I just wanted or thought at some point we need to be able to look at the list and ask what it's like to be a Delta pilot in terms of longevity and bidding power. So I put both.
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