Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-19-2012 | 05:48 PM
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I'm pretty convinced that all F/As that wear their uniform hats have a screw loose. So, maybe there is something to what you wear is a clue to your personality.
02-19-2012 | 06:02 PM
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02-19-2012 | 06:09 PM
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...which ironically was launched by Lufthansa 47 years ago today...
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on February 19, 1965, the Lufthansa board authorized the purchase of 21 Boeing 737s – the youngest member of the family of jets from Seattle.
It was primarily Prof. Gerhard Höltje, at the time Lufthansa’s technical Director, who convinced Boeing to build this tailor-made short-haul jet for Lufthansa. on December 28, 1967, Deutsche Lufthansa took delivery of the first “Bobby” of version 737-130.
It was primarily Prof. Gerhard Höltje, at the time Lufthansa’s technical Director, who convinced Boeing to build this tailor-made short-haul jet for Lufthansa. on December 28, 1967, Deutsche Lufthansa took delivery of the first “Bobby” of version 737-130.
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02-19-2012 | 06:14 PM
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02-19-2012 | 06:35 PM
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02-19-2012 | 06:52 PM
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02-19-2012 | 06:58 PM
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Apparently he didn't know how to fight or have the common sense not to try and pick up on the FO's girlfriend.
02-19-2012 | 07:03 PM
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02-19-2012 | 07:04 PM
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I'm guessing the number is between 15-20 percent raise upfront. Most pilots I talk to seem to think that will put our 737 rates equal with Southwest's.
This board as a whole is a minority full of extremes. We are a bad sample. We are mostly young, junior, and optimistic, or old, bitter, and ****ed off.
I already said I would vote yes to a short-term contract that locks in scope with a 20 percent raise upfront if the deal would go into effect January 1, 2013. That said, I originally put 70 percent down on the survey, then went back and changed it to 99 percent. I was called on Friday night to do the phone survey, but I was at a hockey game. I got disconnected twice so I never did get to answer any questions. It's a shame because I wanted to voice my opinion. Oh well.
This board as a whole is a minority full of extremes. We are a bad sample. We are mostly young, junior, and optimistic, or old, bitter, and ****ed off.
I already said I would vote yes to a short-term contract that locks in scope with a 20 percent raise upfront if the deal would go into effect January 1, 2013. That said, I originally put 70 percent down on the survey, then went back and changed it to 99 percent. I was called on Friday night to do the phone survey, but I was at a hockey game. I got disconnected twice so I never did get to answer any questions. It's a shame because I wanted to voice my opinion. Oh well.
Whatever percent we decide to shoot for we must also consider profit sharing. I know our profit sharing does not even come close to making up for what we gave away - but it is something, and we should consider what, if any, affect it should have on our pay rates.
I remember that an argument for profit sharing went something like this: We are making a major sacrifice, if the company becomes profitable we want our share - thus profit sharing. Plus something like the fact that it would adjust with the economy to help our company be more consistently profitable - profit sharing reduces, down to zero, in lean times and increases with profitability.
Well I was originally very skeptical about profit sharing and still am to a certain extent. The $$$ amounts do not seem proportionate to our sacrifice as a pilot group. I, like most guys, was also skeptical about the companies ability to hide profits, but was told, seemingly correctly, that we had that covered.
Anyhow my point is this - we are all concerned about the bottom line, in other words, what do our W2s say at the end of each year. The company is worried about sustained profitability (and the ability to justify management bonuses, that make our profit sharing look pathetic, by the way).
So, should we consider improvements in our (DAL Pilots specifically) profit sharing as a way to increase our compensation? I Don't know the answer to this question. I personally would prefer an increase in pay-rates over improved profit sharing. I assume most guys think the same but that does not mean that we should not look at improving our profit share mechanism as one way of improving our contract.
Food for thought.
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02-19-2012 | 07:05 PM
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I have heard a lower number for the survey, but since we don't know the results it is all speculation. That said, do you think the average is 30% day one, or 30% over a typical 4 year contract?
I am more concerned about scope than pay. And there are several work rules I think need to be addressed.
I am more concerned about scope than pay. And there are several work rules I think need to be addressed.
The unscientific DPA survey that was released showed 30% or better as the median. I also have a friend who discussed a similar # with one of our ALPA reps.
I'm with you on scope, too.
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