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Old 02-20-2012, 06:36 PM
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Thats a great question - pulled from where? Probably the same place that they pulled the RJs that are now flying about 50% of SLC - SNA which until recently was mostly mainline. If all these RJs are going to LGA then how are they starting other new RJ service??

Oh thats right, my bad, - there are no RJ block hour limits, no production balance, just an ineffective Scope clause that is easily circumvented. But hey, its all legal per the contract. So why does that not make me feel better?

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hey that's what SD said in his weekly update on Dec 18, 7th paragraph...so it must be true!

Just like SD suggested in his weekly update on Oct 17, 2011 where he suggested we would be doing that flying with A320/319s...

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Old 02-20-2012, 06:53 PM
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Was that Empire? Metro III's?
Conquest Airlines with Metro IIIs. Flew mostly in Texas. I threw bags for them in SAT in the early 90s.
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Old 02-20-2012, 06:53 PM
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I've been thinking about scope today.

Imagine a sine wave with an amplitude of +/- 100. This is Delta's demand signal for pilot labor. Over a five-year period, the number of DAL pilots on the list meets the demand between +/- 80. Perhaps RJs and code shares should provide a "labor buffer" for those times when the need goes below -80 or above +80. This flattens the demand wave, which makes the airline more nimble since it isn't directly responsible for the employment of those in the +/- 80-100 pools.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti View Post
I've been thinking about scope today.

Imagine a sine wave with an amplitude of +/- 100. This is Delta's demand signal for pilot labor. Over a five-year period, the number of DAL pilots on the list meets the demand between +/- 80. Perhaps RJs and code shares should provide a "labor buffer" for those times when the need goes below -80 or above +80. This flattens the demand wave, which makes the airline more nimble since it isn't directly responsible for the employment of those in the +/- 80-100 pools.
That's a good idea...

Right now all we have is RJs limits as a factor of airframes that only flex up, not down.

For the big jets we have the closest thing to what you mentioned, production balance. Unfortunately our current 3 year enforcement hiatus negates any of the theoretical gains made.

I believe there is a growing awareness in the MEC that we need to do something. Its unfortunate that some of the good gains as in the last JV LOA are hamstrung by poor language of the subsequent JV MOU.

One of the key lessons for the future is that any change to Section 1 must at the very least go through the LOA process. No more shortcuts to enforceable contract language that result in a concessionary situation as we currently face for the AFKLM/AZ JV.

Total Delta pilot count is down, even with hiring, total captain count is down. If we can't grow organically at a time the company is making a sustained 1B profit annually we are screwed!

If we have Displacements of the big jets, there should be a corresponding reduction in all codeshare activity across the board. DCI, domestic codeshare, international codeshare, revenue sharing JVs and profit sharing JVs.
Instead we have the opposite: Delta mainline jets down, but more asymmetric codeshares, more asymmetric JVs and bunch of turboprops and a handful of DCI jets parked while the large RJs are maxed out...
The few parked DCI aircraft that keep being mentioned are like a weak pack trying to pressurize the cabin at FL390 with the cargo door open -- outflow is vastly exceeding supply.

Again this is all happening while Delta made in excess of $1B profit 2 years in a row. What will Delta do if times really are tough?

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Old 02-20-2012, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti View Post
I know it's considered odd in our subculture, but I swung by the pilot shop last time I was in Atlanta to grab some long-sleeved shirts. I just feel like a kid playing dress up when I wear a short-sleeved shirt with a blazer and tie.

...and as far as hats are concerned, I'll follow my employer's rules for as long as I'm cashing his checks.
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That sounds like a royal pain. Why? Last time I looked (haven't in a while) it was legal (during no coat season or when your rotation included certain destinations) to wear short sleeves W/O the coat BUT it isn't legal to wear the long sleeve shirt W/O the coat. Just food for thought (or until an FOM guru gives me the actual words).
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Found a picture that describes the DPA's role in Contract 2012, while our MEC is trying to score a couple points:


Check out the older bald dude grabbing the hot chick's chest right of the basket....Ferd, I thought you were in training?
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:35 AM
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I'm late to the hat redux....I've been flying. An hour of deicing in MSP and kicking off a really drunk chick prior to push. Any way, what some of you guys are missing is what a great layover receptacle the hat is. When I roll into a hotel room, I set it down upside down, and load my ID, my wallet, the room key, my tie, my copy of the rotation and the Dead Sea scrolls. Mother Delta is just looking out for us. Otherwise, pilots would lose a whole bunch of shizzle without said hat.
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:28 AM
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I'm late to the hat redux....I've been flying. An hour of deicing in MSP and kicking off a really drunk chick prior to push. Any way, what some of you guys are missing is what a great layover receptacle the hat is. When I roll into a hotel room, I set it down upside down, and load my ID, my wallet, the room key, my tie, my copy of the rotation and the Dead Sea scrolls. Mother Delta is just looking out for us. Otherwise, pilots would lose a whole bunch of shizzle without said hat.

Exactly...and don't forget, when you come up short of beer money on your next layover, it makes a great collection basket. I usually just sit on the sidewalk and play guitar or preach the spoken word, for tips!
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:46 AM
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Exactly...and don't forget, when you come up short of beer money on your next layover, it makes a great collection basket. I usually just sit on the sidewalk and play guitar or preach the spoken word, for tips!
That's a bit redundant...no?

I'm going off now to write the written word.

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Old 02-21-2012, 03:52 AM
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I was talking about Spoken Word poetry, not just His word...but I'll try to tie them both together for you.

All I could find was this one. I think this guy's Com Air...notice the jacket, size of his watch, and no hat!

But how's he going to get any beer money with no hat?? And if I catch him working my corner, there will be blood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

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