Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Bar, will you report aby conversation you have with RA??
we need something to work off of.
also someone get Guard Dude up on Alert 5 or something, come Monday if we see this TA then we'll easily hit 100,000 posts.
we need something to work off of.
also someone get Guard Dude up on Alert 5 or something, come Monday if we see this TA then we'll easily hit 100,000 posts.
It sounds to me like the MEC needs to open up this process a bit. They need to at least release a summary of what it is they are debating.
The rank and file delta pilots should be allowed to provide some input before our reps vote.
There is no good reason for all this secrecy.
I suppose it's too late now. I hope the reps have been able to stand up to any excess arm-twisting that has been occurring.
They should send out a blast email and announce the time and place for Monday's final debate and open it to the rank-and-file.
The rank and file delta pilots should be allowed to provide some input before our reps vote.
There is no good reason for all this secrecy.
I suppose it's too late now. I hope the reps have been able to stand up to any excess arm-twisting that has been occurring.
They should send out a blast email and announce the time and place for Monday's final debate and open it to the rank-and-file.
Last edited by Check Essential; 05-19-2012 at 07:33 AM.
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Airmanship is the problem. Airbus made a big point in their development that they intended to design a aircraft that did not require airmanship. Sadly it has not worked out quite like they planned. We have also watched as most airlines eliminate basic flying skills from training. If you don't require those skills you open the profession up to a larger group and can then lower wages. What does it say when a pilot at a major airline is not comfortable when cleared for the visual on downwind in a 757 flying a standard visual pattern and instead has to fly out to the OM before turning back into the field. They are not even comfortable with their own skills to fly the aircraft. When the chips are down and things go very bad it will not be a matter of trying to fall back on old skills, there will be no old skills to use and the result can be predicted in advance. More and more accidents are along these lines. Many pilots today could not pass a sim check from 25 years ago. The solution is make the check rides easier and easier. That falls back on management desire to expand the pool of pilots to keep wages low.
RA is working the beer tent at the block party if anyone wants to ask him any questions
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From the article:
"Recent studies show that the effect of surprise is the subject of little, or no, simulator training," says the BEA. It is recommending to the European Aviation Safety Agency that surprise effects be introduced to training scenarios to help pilots react to them and work under stress.
How do you study for surprise in a simulator when most guys are constantly expecting to be surprised? Quite the conundrum.
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From the article:
"Recent studies show that the effect of surprise is the subject of little, or no, simulator training," says the BEA. It is recommending to the European Aviation Safety Agency that surprise effects be introduced to training scenarios to help pilots react to them and work under stress.
How do you study for surprise in a simulator when most guys are constantly expecting to be surprised? Quite the conundrum.
Scoop
"Recent studies show that the effect of surprise is the subject of little, or no, simulator training," says the BEA. It is recommending to the European Aviation Safety Agency that surprise effects be introduced to training scenarios to help pilots react to them and work under stress.
How do you study for surprise in a simulator when most guys are constantly expecting to be surprised? Quite the conundrum.
Scoop
A lot of times, this has been by accident. My favorite, and most recent example, was an engine failure being set for the wrong speed by the instructor. I was expecting the takeoff to turn into a reject... it instead turned into a V2 cut. Caught me off guard and I'd say I actually gained a lot more from it than had it actually ended up being the planned RTO.
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The reps are not happy about being there over the weekend,but they know the debate needs to happen. Our careers and families deserve their honest thoughtful debate.
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This TA apparently isn't getting instant "approve this thing by acclimation" treatment, which tells me there are a couple of NO Votes. That's a good thing, indicating democracy is working. The bad news is that there are obvious indications of problems with this agreement.
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