Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1144072)

The Emperor Penguin. It has an upright and regal bearing as the name suggests. But, it is really just as awkward, gawky, and dirty as other penguins.

A bird by name only as it has wings... but for no apparent reason. This bird does not ever fly.

Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey (Post 1144106)

I wasn't aware of that discount. Any info would be greatly appreciated?

Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1143258)

Some might argue after going through many of your past posts that you are one of the alpa or company expectation managers mentioned here (just like "thrust normal", "sailing" ect. Ninety percent of your time seems to be spent trying to show why we should not get much improvement or the alaska airlines jv is good or the outsourced RJ's are a necessity for our business model ect ect. The other 10 percent saying what a real line pilot trying to regain what was stolen would say to maintain some street cred. :rolleyes:

Que defiant "no I'm not!" response......3 2 1

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1144086)

True enough. But I was saying it would take years to get to the PEB, not that the PEB would take years.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1144040)

Just to clarify, if a US President invokes a Presidential Emergency Board (PEB), it only delays things 30 days. Then one more 30 day cooling off period begins, then a strike can happen. PEB's can only delay things 60 days.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1143625)

Once we go to the traditional model, we can pretty much park ourselves for a while, and wait for the endless mediation sessions before we can even think of getting released, only to get to a PEB. This could take years. At which point your prophecy of quitting might be open, but illegal self-help certainly won't: we'll just get UsAired.

Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey (Post 1144109)

I don't think so...From my research so far I've been told that is all I need! I haven't ruled it out yet...

Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 1144100)

Awww shucks, I thought I was invited to the party. I guess you only want people of the same mindset posting in here? Sorry, didn't see that in TOS. Must be widebody syndrome. If you don't like someone's opinion tell to go pound sand huh? 777 and 747 hell of an echo chamber.........

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1144116)

Everybody on here has an opinion and 1 vote. I know I'm in a minority but I have always been a realist. I would love restoration but the reality to me is that under the RLA and going to the NMB, that isn't going to happen. Sailing came on here and said he wants 40% but then also stated that it will be a long struggle as the NMB has already hinted to DALPA that we won't get released for a long time (example 1, APA and AMR).
That's not managing expectations, that's reality. Reality is that DL has no incentive to sign a 1 billion plus cost increase for the pilots, period. If anybody can come on here and explain why our Mgmt team would do that I'm all ears. Our current Mgmt team is very aggressive about controlling costs and getting rid of routes that don't make money, sucks for us in the short run. SWAPA/SW is held up as our gold standard yet they are in bed together. Why do they get paid so much ?, maybe because SW makes money every year and they get a pay raise just about every year.

In my prior life I had an accounting degree and our (DL) data is still not pretty, improving but not good. I'm not managing expectations, its just reality.
I sound all doom and gloom but I still think we can get a good contract. It won't be easy and it won't be quick.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1144093)

Whether you fill them or not has nothing to do with it. CASM stands for Cost per Available Seat Mile. And the 757-300 is the lowest. The 747-400 is the second lowest.

Carl

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1144116)

Everybody on here has an opinion and 1 vote. I know I'm in a minority but I have always been a realist. I would love restoration but the reality to me is that under the RLA and going to the NMB, that isn't going to happen.

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1144116)

Sailing came on here and said he wants 40% but then also stated that it will be a long struggle as the NMB has already hinted to DALPA that we won't get released for a long time (example 1, APA and AMR).

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1144116)

That's not managing expectations, that's reality.

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1144116)

Reality is that DL has no incentive to sign a 1 billion plus cost increase for the pilots, period. If anybody can come on here and explain why our Mgmt team would do that I'm all ears.

Originally Posted by Seaslap8 (Post 1144125)

I would submit that whether you fill them or not has everything to do with it....casm is a nice metric when your past the break even point for a hull, when things go south 300 empty seats is more problematic than 100.