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Originally Posted by av8ohr
(Post 1143739)
On a lighter note, our double-breasted Van Admiral jackets may be retired for the season. ;)
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Found this:
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...37-pilots.html 21st Jan 2012, 14:33 #1 (permalink) VarkDriver AF/KLM 737 pilots I fly the B737 for a US major airline, wanting to get realistic numbers on salary/take home pay for KLM and AF 737 pilots. Never seem to get a clear view of how our contracts differ in these terms. Please PM Thanks Varkdriver Old 22nd Jan 2012, 09:37 #3 (permalink) seat 0A If it's Delta you fly for, the guys at your MEC should have all the information you're looking for. |
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1143872)
Then go to work for KLM. Good luck to ya!
Don't really mean that...I'm just trying to save tsquare from making the response. :D Carl Thanks, ;) |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1143834)
Look, I am willing to give ALPA one more chance, and then it is time to move over. One more TA, and then if it isn't satisfactory, then I will stump for the donuts until ALPA is gone and short $35 million per year from our dues. You and Sailing have to remember that we now make over $900 million per year in extra fees like bag fees (SW doesn't have that advantage Sailing...) plus starting in 2013 about $500 million less interest payments per year when the debt gets to $10 billion. What does that mean? Big raise, not managing expectations. It's the cost of doing
business. Say it with me....... And, did you call someone an a$$wipe? Really? I agree with the cost of doing business part of your post, however, where we disagree is that all that profit will come to us... |
Shhhh. It's secret information. The MEC can't give it out. School's out and I have to go pick up the kids. Bottle of Scotch FedEx'd to whoever can post the details of AF amnd KLM's current pilot contract first. Specifically pay and benefits and any applicable work rules. Let the game begin.
AF/KLM 737 pilots I fly the B737 for a US major airline, wanting to get realistic numbers on salary/take home pay for KLM and AF 737 pilots. Never seem to get a clear view of how our contracts differ in these terms. Please PM Thanks Varkdriver Old 22nd Jan 2012, 09:37 #3 (permalink) seat 0A If it's Delta you fly for, the guys at your MEC should have all the information you're looking for. |
Originally Posted by TheManager
(Post 1143703)
KLM (Royal Dutch Airlines) Professional Pilots - Salary Monday, 26 November 2007 00:37 Pilots Salary in KLM (Royal Dutch Airlines)
Rank Annual (Euros) Second Officer Base 36,000* First Officer Notes: Base (depending on age) 44,000** Top 162,000** Captain Base 125,000** Top 230,000** 1. **Rates effective 13.5.06 2. *Rates effective 19.9.06 3. Pension Details last update Due to new Dutch laws the pension scheme has changed as of 01/01/2006. You now build up 1.95% of your total years pay (including your vacation pay and your end year bonus (set at 8%, for pilots employed before April, 2005). Variable between 4-12% depending on company performance for all new pilots, and older ones who have opted for the new scheme. On top of this the company participates in the new "levensloop" saving scheme in order to allow the same pension total as before 01-01-2006. Pilots can opt for this or take the money (average of 6%) and invest or spend it themselves, this will result in a lower pension than before the new law took effect. 1. Current Fleet 15 Boeing 777-200ERs and 9 A330-200. (7/Jan/07) 2. Orders: Starting February, 2008 the first of at least 4 Boeing 777-300ER will start to arrive. And an additional 5 A330-200 options have been converted from options to orders. A Boeing 747-400ERF (freighter) which was initially scheduled to join the fleet in February, 2007 has now been secunded to parent airline Air France for a period of at least 18 months (being operated by Air France crews). Also an additional 4 Fokker 100's are coming in the next year. And 8 more Boeing 737-800's have been ordered as replacements for Boeing 737-400's. Sources: PilotJobsNetwork.com ***** Note the currency converter in the middle of the page and the published date. 6 years ago.****** |
It's a fantastic day here in West Tennessee. I'm going out to the deer lease to see the new old tractor we got to manage the land. Two Delta pilots managed to break the old W. German John Deere last season. Luckily, we have four retired mechanics in the lease. I had my "hair shirt" on earlier this morning. I value each of you as my peers and the efforts you make each day on behalf of Delta Air Lines. I stand by my comments and appreciate the discourse. We are at a watershed. Frustration is building to a fever pitch. We can use that to change the course of our careers, or we can Red Book/Green Book, Delta/Western/PanAm ourselves into the mediocre middle of the pack. I was hired at Western, got the green light at Delta, went to Northwest and flew on the Red side, spent the last 23 years in a Green base and had a relative that flew for PanAm. They are or were all among the best this profession has offered. Unity.
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Oil at 4 year high at the close. Anybody wanna guess when Carl has to take a paycut?
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[QUOTE=Bill Lumberg;1143834]Look, I am willing to give ALPA one more chance, and then it is time to move over. One more TA, and then if it isn't satisfactory, then I will stump for the donuts until ALPA is gone and short $35 million per year from our dues.
My thoughts exactly. I think DALPA is getting this feeling from a lot of us - I suppose that's why the association is so twitchy on this forum. |
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