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LuvJockey 03-01-2012 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1143819)
Well A$$wipe, he flies the same airplane in the same base as me, he is not in the LEC unless he is doing some committee work, and he is definitely not management. Grow up.

Nice....particularly from a check airman.

tsquare 03-01-2012 09:15 AM

nevermind.. you are right. he hit me the wrong way. He flamed and I bit...

post was edited for maturity.

TheManager 03-01-2012 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by tsquare http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
Well A$$wipe, he flies the same airplane in the same base as me, he is not in the LEC unless he is doing some committee work, and he is definitely not management. Grow up.



Well, I know this now. There is now way you could have ever been in the Navy.;)


BlueMoon 03-01-2012 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1143815)
It's official:

Super jumbo jet coming to Atlanta *| ajc.com



Super jumbo jet coming to Atlanta

Korean Air plans to begin flying the A380 super jumbo jet between Atlanta and Seoul, the Atlanta airport's top executive said.

Louis Miller, general manager of Hartsfield-Jackson International, said the A380 service could start as soon as January 2013. It "will enhance Atlanta's reputation as a world-class city and gateway to the United States," Miller said.

The Atlanta airport is working on some $30 million in improvements to prepare for the A380, including modifications to two gates on Concourse E and widening of taxiways and a runway.

Korean Air's A380s have 407 seats, and it plans for in-flight cocktail lounges and duty-free shops inside the planes.

The A380 debuted in 2007 and already flies to some other U.S. airports. According to Airbus, any airport that can handle a Boeing 747 can handle the plane, but airports are adjusting gate areas and widening runway and taxiway shoulders because the A380's engines sit so far out on the wings that they may kick up debris from the grass. Such debris can be sucked into aircraft engines or cause other damage.

Hartsfield-Jackson is paying for the improvements with passenger facility charges -- the $4.50 each passenger pays on top of the fare to fly from Atlanta.

$30 million for one flight, I'm sure they'll just add a couple bucks to the landing fees

Bill Lumberg 03-01-2012 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1143785)
Sailing is notmanagement nor is he a DALPA MEC/LEC member as far as I know. You like to further your own donut agenda...

Look, I am willing to give ALPA one more chance, and then it is time to move over. One more TA, and then if it isn't satisfactory, then I will stump for the donuts until ALPA is gone and short $35 million per year from our dues. You and Sailing have to remember that we now make over $900 million per year in extra fees like bag fees (SW doesn't have that advantage Sailing...) plus starting in 2013 about $500 million less interest payments per year when the debt gets to $10 billion. What does that mean? Big raise, not managing expectations. It's the cost of doing
business. Say it with me....... And, did you call someone an a$$wipe? Really?

DAL 88 Driver 03-01-2012 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1143805)
What I disagree with is in bold. You were directly effected by the wages you are earning now. You are directly effected because your career earnings will be half of what they could have been. You are directly effected because you do not have a pension.

I suspect you like many of us got in to this career for a few reasons. One was that you loved flying, but the other one was that you could make decent money doing what you loved. I further suspect you opted for aviation because of the pay and benefits versus another career. I know I did.

Glad to hear you talking like that again, ACL. How does that fly with your MEC buddies? :eek:

But I'm also hearing a tone of resignation. Don't give up. This career can still be restored. It won't be easy... but nothing worthwhile ever is. We need to set restoration as our objective and then set out to achieve it with an unwavering commitment and resolve. Are you starting to figure out that the current predominant thinking in DALPA is not going down that road?

sevenfiveseven 03-01-2012 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1143709)
Halter probably got a better offer somewhere else. CFO's come and go all the time. The new guy is a home grown type. Hired when he was 25 as an analyst at DL, in 1997. That makes him 40 now, about the same seniority as a DL 767 FO.

And an 88 Captain most bases.....

acl65pilot 03-01-2012 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 1143576)
Your posts looks to me like it was pretty competitive when you were hired. Cream of the crop even. You were hired under the current contract and in the last 1.5 years, you have gotten a 4% raise with profit sharing. Apparently our current contract was enough to get you and all of the other highly qualified applicants to join the ranks as Delta pilots. I am just wondering what has changed in the last year and a half that requires a major change in pilot compensation to get qualified candidates?

Simple, most guys that hired on post CH11 came here with the expectation that the pay would go back up. It was a calculated risk. :eek:

acl65pilot 03-01-2012 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by LandGreen2 (Post 1143616)
Maybe we could have our moderators...ACL and gang lobby APC to have these KLM/AF payscales added to the International profiles section of this website??? Maybe it would be easier for DALPA to see it? UCAL and APA too!

As of now only Emirates and Cathy are on there.

I'll see what I can do!

acl65pilot 03-01-2012 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1143644)
Acl, sailing, PG, other Southies. Hank Halter retired today. Good, bad, neither?

Frankly, I got the impression from his last investor call that he was not happy. He was quiet and short. The departure does not surprise me, but I think it caught DAL off guard. He had a 40 y/o replace him. Heck that is about my age :D


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