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Sliceback 11-19-2011 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by DAL73n (Post 1088079)
I'll second that. Although, the widely held standard is within 2 hours of any of the bases we cover (which in LA would mean you could be 2 hours EAST of Ontario which could be "who knows how long to LAX) and in NYC I knew a lot of American and United guys who were on reserve with ACY (Atlantic City) being 2 hours from EWR and who knows how long to LGA or JFK.


AA has no reserve call out time. It's "reasonably available by surface transportation". Company tries to define it as "2 hrs".

cni187 11-19-2011 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat (Post 1088068)
I've seen guys run in ATL. It's more of a waddle in MSP.

Never seen them run in ATL, heard its called the Hartsfield shuffle

forgot to bid 11-19-2011 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by DAWGS (Post 1088105)
The other side of the story about BWI I have heard is they do not have enough full time employees. Many ready reserves which have already timed out for the year. This is not just a station manager's fault, poor management all the way up. Communication is not taking place somewhere or the company is just refusing to provide enough full-time positions. I heard we have seven full time ramp positions and the rest ready reserve. If that is true, it doesn't seem to be a recipe for even RA to run a successful station.

If that is true then the slow down is intentional, which is kind of what I thought. They can probably justify it in their minds as a cry for staffing help but the problem is you can look out there and see them not doing anything and know they're not working period. And I bet the company isn't buying off on it.

Because when all of the equipment is pulled off both planes for over half an hour while you watch it from the taxiway then they're not short staffed.

the best part is when they don't answer their phones and not even dispatch can get a hold of them.

80ktsClamp 11-19-2011 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1088140)
Never seen them run in ATL, heard its called the Hartsfield shuffle

Upon sensing the presence of a "widgeted manager with clipboard" nearby, the "great southern ramp sloth" is known to move at astounding speeds.

forgot to bid 11-19-2011 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1088140)
Never seen them run in ATL, heard its called the Hartsfield shuffle

My understanding is they are no longer allowed to run for safety reasons, right?

Not being sarcastic. And it kind of makes sense.

PilotFrog 11-19-2011 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by whaledriver1 (Post 1087941)
RE: 24/7 Rule

I had the same question last month regarding reserve. Called an apla contract guy and was told 24/7 does not apply to 7ER reserve duty pilots. I asked why and was informed that the long call 12 hr day negates the FAR requirement for 24/7 rest. I remember FNWA honored the 24/7 issue, I am not sure why its now void? So, a reserve pilot may be required to work reserve for 10 days straight without a 24/7 break.

Every time I have called scheduling and told them I have been on for more than 7 days they give me a break of 24hrs. Even pushed back a SC for it once. Call them and point it out.
Actually I just checked and I need to call them and tell them I've been on for 8. Or I'll just wait and when they call to tell me I've got a trip with less than 24hrs of notice I'll point it out then.

SierraWhiskey 11-20-2011 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by whaledriver1 (Post 1087941)
RE: 24/7 Rule

I had the same question last month regarding reserve. Called an apla contract guy and was told 24/7 does not apply to 7ER reserve duty pilots. I asked why and was informed that the long call 12 hr day negates the FAR requirement for 24/7 rest. I remember FNWA honored the 24/7 issue, I am not sure why its now void? So, a reserve pilot may be required to work reserve for 10 days straight without a 24/7 break.

So can someone tell me how this "negates" a far?

iaflyer 11-20-2011 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey (Post 1088213)
So can someone tell me how this "negates" a far?

It doesn't - he's wrong. (except for 4 man crews which don't need a 24/7 break)

DAWGS 11-20-2011 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1088142)
If that is true then the slow down is intentional, which is kind of what I thought. They can probably justify it in their minds as a cry for staffing help but the problem is you can look out there and see them not doing anything and know they're not working period. And I bet the company isn't buying off on it.

Because when all of the equipment is pulled off both planes for over half an hour while you watch it from the taxiway then they're not short staffed.

the best part is when they don't answer their phones and not even dispatch can get a hold of them.

You may be right, just passing along what I have heard the few times I have been there recently. I will say it amazes me how lean we have become and how the operation still continues to run efficiently for the most part around our system. Regardless of the reasons, something should be done to get the BWI operation on par with the rest of our system.

flyallnite 11-20-2011 06:31 AM

BWI is short gates due to ramp construction, and has the added problem of moving aircraft around from remote parking. That said, it's been a really bad operation for most of the past year, and has had its problems in the past. MGMT is well aware of the issues, but the issues remain. Plan/bid accordingly.


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