Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1138988)

Yes, in its entirety...and then we "generously" offer to "give back" some things. Like:

The "cancelled contracts" threat is a myth. The vast majority of those fake "penalties" are merely DL being forced to take over the payments. The same payments DL is paying over 100% in the first place.

50 seaters could be left alone to wither on the vine with a shrinking cap matched to current levels. Zero cost.

51-76 seater contracts are forbidden to be entered into or extended, and existing contracts forced to be cancelled at an agressive but controllable rate to allow transition to the DL pilot list. Using a B scale should be avoided, but used if there is no other way to get that flying back. Controllable cost.

We allow Skyteam and even Alaska and Hawaiian flying, but with strict limits. There is no reason why we should code with 2 BOS-SEA flights. Cut it down to one and if we need more we do one. LA-SEA is limited to 2 or 3 AS flights with 50 seats on each. Any more and we put our metal on it. The truly niche markets like Prudhoe Bay and Walla Walla can remain as is until total demand gets to above a fair, predetermined level. Controllable cost and actually significantly increased revenue assuming we can compete with AS as they are by no means some invincibile force that dominates an entire coast without contest.

Skyteam is fine as well, we just need a fair balance. 49.75 becomes 50.00 for AF/KLM/AZ and the balance period is for at least 6 months out of 12 each and every year including at least one peak summer month.

Every new Skyteam carrier will naturally come with promoses of network growth from management, so we make them quantify said growth and put it in writing.

Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1139155)

Superpilot, you read my mind. But since I did my homework I'm still going to turn it in.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=500&h=697

Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1139155)

Superpilot, you read my mind. But since I did my homework I'm still going to turn it in.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=500&h=697

Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 1139294)

I see no TOS violation, it's simply a picture of Camelus bactrianus - two humps and a camel toe.

EDIT - that is the actual name for a two humped camel - I did not realize the pronunciation of the second word until posted. We could get a lot of punch line mileage out of "2 humps and a camel toe"

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1139260)

Rode the jumpseat with some ASA guys last week and they told me this was coming. Cockpit rumor was that GoJets bid below cost to get the contract and were having a heck of a time filling the seats for the flying they committed to, much of which will be done in jets taken away from ASA. Of course these guys were in a fine mood. Can't blame them.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1139166)

That's a "good news / bad news" scenario. The good news is that they are staying and flying as our 130 seat jet until the 737-900's start to arrive.

The bad news is that our DC9 pilots are needed in position and will not be available to staff the MD88's. The MD90 arrivals will be staffed with a waterfall of displacements from the 747 / 777, 767, 737 & 320. Need 40 Captains / 20 FO's right away. Will eventually displace 200 pilots to staff the MD88 openings.

Any news on an Atlanta DC9 base? They were talking that MSP's pilots were needed in Atlanta. (Kinda makes me think about bidding the DC9 MSP and enjoying the credit time deadheading to my home town ... as well as being an ATL livin' green slip golden bouy.)

Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1139152)

Well said, especially the part about pessimism and defeatism. He will say he is only being a realist. Yet he, and those like him, are a large part of the problem we face in getting to where we need to be.

Originally Posted by freightguy (Post 1139396)

DAL has watered and fed Alaskan for the last few years. They are flying our customers under the 'exclusive codeshare' deal. I guess the 'exclusive codeshare' is not so 'exclusive' anymore. Guess who Alaska signed up with to channel passengers to? Emirates! Alaska will now be supplying passengers to Emirates on their SEA-DXB flight. They are mainly targeting the Indian tech workers with this move. Emirates is hoping to get SEA-India passengers to fly SEA-DXB-India... the same passengers we take from SEA-AMS-BOM! Here is the link:
Emirates and Alaska airlines launch frequent-flier pact for first Seattle flights - Puget Sound Business Journal

We keep feeding and codesharing with everybody and in turn get f'd in the rear end. We don't have product control over Alsakan or anybody else. We must do our own flying. We warned about stuff like this happening in this same thread several years ago.

Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1139124)

Hi Guys,
I have a Q about reserve....I got in off a 3-day trip, and blocked in at 00:43, just past midnight, which would have put me off duty at 00:58, two minutes shy of 01:00, on an XX day-off. Am I due an extra day off, as this rotation had me "on the clock" on one of my XX days? Much thanks!
Chuck