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Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1144274)
Is it just me or does that plane look saggy?
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Originally Posted by Phuz
(Post 1144316)
I get a kick out of this. Don't you guys see that they are doing the same thing to you that they have already done to the regionals? They are simply moving the ticket brokerage up a level, and soon your customer wont know or care which "skyteam" airline they are flying on.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 1144308)
Yea, that due to high energy costs, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1144272)
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 1144334)
Soon Delta will be a subcontractor and they will whipsaw us against our competitors and when we cost too much, they will ComAir us. Scope is our only defense. Now is the time.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1144274)
Is it just me or does that plane look saggy?
Not "saggy", just crewed with SEA based FA's :eek: |
Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey
(Post 1144063)
Sorry to interrupt the debate between Carl & T, but does anybody know if "we" as airline pilots still get a discount on H&K guns? If so, has anybody gone through the process? Please fill free to PM with any info. Now back to the debate!
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1144074)
I never said all of the profit would go to us, but most of the other groups including management are back to pre-BK wages. I don't know if we can do $315 an hour again for the 777/744 guys, but it should be a lot more than SWA 737 Capts, that's for sure. They currently are fairly close in pay, but we have 36 total 777/744s, and they have over 500 737s, which means a lot more of them get paid more. Plus, our lower line values or 12 day trips for the Whale guys really limits the pay opportunity for our most senior pilots. Those SWA senior guys all get over 100 trips of pay per month, easily. And no, I don't want to fly for them, I want to be paid CLOSER to what we used to be paid, but not at 4% a year for the next 10. I want larger chunks, sooner. Those bag/ticket fees and less interest payments should help facilitate that. That's my point. Sailing is trying to justify the 4% raise per year forever method, and that isn't acceptable to many, since 30% and then an additional 17% were taken from us in those chunks during BK. They can take away in large chunks, but can't give it back at more than 4% per year? Sailing thinks so.
First of all, and I don't pretend to speak for Sailing, but I don't get that he is trying to justify a 4% raise forever kind of thing. If I were industrious enough, I am sure I could find many posts where he has said that he wants a much bigger raise than many talk about here.. but that is for him to defend or not.. I do not argue the point about the other employee groups being back to where they were and management being overly compensated. That is a corporate America phenomina, nothing unique to DAL. Tim Cook got 1,000,000 shares of AAPL before he even signed his name on the oath of office... I mean... his personal net worth has gone up over $200M since he took the job.. is he worth it? Again.. I digress.. You bring up again.. the point about why I am so passionate about LGBP or at the very least banded pay... I am not going to rehash it again.. (The crowd goes wild). You have to make your own decision about that, but what we have does not work for the vast majority of guys... And I will say again... I am waiting for someone to convince me that productivity has any place in this discussion... |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1144098)
Exactly. At Delta, an 870,000 pound airplane pays the same as a 620,000 pound airplane.
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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1144142)
Probably not 100% legal in a lot more places than those, but when someone waltzes into your house that shouldn't be there, what the distinguished "lady" from San Francisco thinks really doesn't matter.
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