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georgetg 03-07-2012 10:55 AM

Developing: AA freezes pensions for all but the pilots

Cheers
George

acl65pilot 03-07-2012 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1147377)
That's exactly how a senior pilot should do it, but in your category with the size of some of your trips you can probably do it better than mine. The key is not to be available on a weekend on mine, if you are, you're flying. So you just have to bid weekends off and as many days off at the end. It can be done but there is a limit.

Because the thing is if you get, and this happened to me last month, if you get lumped in with the weekends ON group during the week (say only be available for 3 days starting mon) then out you go. You want to try and hide in the 4+ day available crowd for as long as you can if you're senior.

On the WB's it works totally opposite of your last paragraph. the 5+ day crowd has historically done the SC's to bidding three day weekends was the way to fly one trip a month, generally in the second or third week and one SC, when the coverage was so low that they had to use a pilot in the 4 day bucket.

I flew one trip last month and one SC. The trip was because it was to sucky to pick up and the SC was because no one else was legal in my bucket. This month I am a line holder with close to a max credit line and I am no where near the top of reserves.

acl65pilot 03-07-2012 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1147384)
Developing: AA freezes pensions for all but the pilots

Cheers
George


I am watching that deal and I wonder if Horton is trying to get their contracts thrown out.

Food for thought: If DAL only goes for their MIA/SA ops, it would be under the 25% threshold that would trigger their fragmentation clause.......

I often wonder what we are up to wrt to this, but at the end of the day, the whole thing sucks for the profession.

acl65pilot 03-07-2012 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1147379)
The senior guys will still get called out now and then on their SC days. If they bid to be on call the 1st 1/2 of the month they will not be immune from flying on their SC days. I am seeing senior reserves with higher raw scores than junior reserves and I'm seeing it in big categories.


This whole LOA 29 is not phased in quite yet. By the time it does, we will be in the summer uptick, so do not expect to see much benefit until the fall. By then they will have rightsized the 7ER and any benefit to sitting reserve as a senior pilot will generally be gone as all reserves will be flying a lot more.

TeddyKGB 03-07-2012 11:08 AM

on another topic does a VD resulting in a training event trigger a freeze?

rvr350 03-07-2012 11:09 AM

my 2 cents on new rsv system: The huge disparity that we're seeing now is because in some category we have a huge surplus, M88 in most bases. Senior guys are now smart enough to bid the last part of the month off, and therefore enhances their chances of staying home, while junior guys work in the beginning of the month.

Once summer arrives, and the number of lineholders increase, and reserve coverage drops, this disparity will diminish as we get leaner. I would give this system a try till labor day, and see if it holds up. It's way too early to get the pitchfork out.

forgot to bid 03-07-2012 11:11 AM

BTW, in my dealings and others who have sent me emails, texts or pm's about this subject, the common response from rep's has been "the new system is what pilots demanded and if you don't like the system it's because your junior." Which is, let's all recall, a relative thing because you can be a 1987 hire sitting reserve on the 777A and not be happy.

But did I miss the survey on this? When did it happen?

One thing though, I've seen a change in tone to the positive and more receptive to other ideas lately, and that I appreciate.

80ktsClamp 03-07-2012 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1147392)
on another topic does a VD resulting in a training event trigger a freeze?

Yeth.... yeth it doeth.

Bill Lumberg 03-07-2012 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1147384)
Developing: AA freezes pensions for all but the pilots

Cheers
George

I don't think Gautbomb (PBGC head) will allow any of the pensions to be terminated.

georgetg 03-07-2012 11:18 AM

The "mythical" 100 seater:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/sukhoi.jpg

Aeroflot, Russian Airlines...
Mmmmm, Sukhoi,

Cheers
George


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