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Question for reserve gurus. If I'm 5 hours from ALV and on 4 day availability can they assign me a trip that will take me over ALV without my consent?

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Originally Posted by whatsitdoinnow (Post 1123994)

Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company opener will be something on the order of a 2 to 4 percent raise with offsets in work rules to cover the cost. Anyone who thinks other wise is smoking some really good stuff.

:rolleyes:

Anyone who thinks 2-4% will pass by the pilot group is smoking some even better stuff!!! :cool:

Come on folks that isn't even in the same city let alone ballpark of what will pass or should get a yes vote. Suggestion... Ask everybody you fly with. "what is your minimum yes vote". I have found some interesting widely varied % increases. I speculate on the M88 it's an avg of 30-40%.

This is the guy I want for our negotiations:

(PG-13 language used at times; insert $%#@ over those uses in your mind if needed.)

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Originally Posted by Too Tall (Post 1124011)

Question for reserve gurus. If I'm 5 hours from ALV and on 4 day availability can they assign me a trip that will take me over ALV without my consent?

No. They can only take you past the ALV if you submit a YS.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1124015)

No. They can only take you past the ALV if you submit a YS.

Thanks, thats what I was hoping I need some time off.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1123988)

And if you think I have had this lobotomy you speak of, you have been talking to the wrong people. Not everything ALPA does is wrong, hate to break it to you. We cannot just demand and get. Talk to your exalted SWAPA buddies about what they want, and then what they actually get.

I don't form my opinions based on talking to people. I form my opinions based on what I see.

I will say, though, that I've had quite a few folks (who are lurkers here) comment to me about you, ACL. These same folks used to sing your praises a few years ago. Several of them (without me saying anything first) have commented on how you've changed and basically become an ALPA official talking points mouthpiece. They are not impressed. And neither am I.

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1123778)

Here's a little nugget:

SW is pulling all Airtran out of DFW.
304,000 enplanements/year left for someone to pick up without poaching any of AMR's flying...

Cheers
George

They had to due to the Wright Amendment legislation. Agree on picking up the slack.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1124008)

UPDATE 1-EU regulator probes Air France/Delta transatlantic pact

* EU regulator probing if pricing, capacity deals may harm passengers

* EU: pacts may breach EU antitrust rules

* EU also drops separate probe into Air France, Continental, 6 others

BRUSSELS, Jan 27 (Reuters) - EU antitrust regulators are investigating whether pricing and capacity pacts between Air France-KLM, Alitalia and Delta Air Lines Inc. on routes between Europe and North America are bad for passengers.

The European Commission said in a statement on Friday that such deals could breach EU antitrust rules.

"The goal is to ensure that this tie-up does not harm passengers on EU-U.S. routes," the Commission said as it announced the start of the investigation.

It said it would consider the implications of the joint venture compared to the situation where the airlines would otherwise be competing.

The agreements signed between the airlines in 2009 and 2010 cover coordinated transatlantic operations in terms of capacity, schedules, pricing and revenues.

"The parties also share profits and losses of their transatlantic flights," said the Commission, which acts as competition regulator for the European Union.

Alliances allow their members to streamline costs, share revenues and increase scale, a better option for airlines than mergers, which can be difficult and expensive to achieve.

The Commission also said it was closing separate formal antitrust proceedings against several members of the SkyTeam airlines alliance: AeroMexico, Air France and KLM , Alitalia, Czech Airlines, Delta, Korean Air Lines and Continental Airlines, which is part of United Continental.

The BA lobby at work.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1123988)

The reality is there is not a conflict in the actual sense. It is a perceived conflict, and one that ALPA does a horrible job at correcting.

Some I've never gotten a straight answer on from my reps or anyone at ALPA:

-Why are we sending dues money to national, only to be "redistributed" to regional pilot groups whose interests are not aligned with our own?

-What percentage of Delta pilots' dues money works exclusively for our benefit, and what percentage gets sent to national to be utilized elsewhere? We can keep it simple. "A day in the life of a DALPA dues dollar." I want to know where every single cent is sent.

-Why is it impossible to get an honest answer and some accountability on those (and other) legitimate questions?

sailingfun, alfaromero, and other DALPA spinmeisters, you can feel free answer as well.

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Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1123993)

But why have to meet?

Speaking of "meet and confer", have we? If not, when will we? And what will be said? Will it be kept super top secret so that other MEC's know what we're planning but our own pilot group will not know? Or will "meet and confer" and all the other focus group mandates after meet and confer (assuming there is no "agreement") apply additional pressure for us to keep a broken status quo so as to not expose ourselves to liability from a conflict of interest?

We need to follow up constantly on who is meeting and what is conferring and when and why.

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Originally Posted by whatsitdoinnow (Post 1123994)

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Anyone who thinks 2-4% will pass by the pilot group is smoking some even better stuff!!! :cool:

Come on folks that isn't even in the same city let alone ballpark of what will pass or should get a yes vote. Suggestion... Ask everybody you fly with. "what is your minimum yes vote". I have found some interesting widely varied % increases. I speculate on the M88 it's an avg of 30-40%.

Whatsitdoingnow,

You bring up an interesting point, the "minimum yes vote." I wholeheartedly agree that a 4% pay-raise (independent of numerous other improvements) would overwhelmingly fail.

I agree that many guys list 30%, 40%, 50% etc as their minimum pay-raise. But this number is essentially meaningless chest thumping. What good is a 50% minimum pay-raise request unless the majority are willing to back it up with a strike vote and potentially damaging strike. In other words, many guys who say 50% is their minimum would not be willing to burn the house down for 25%.

So is 50% really their minimum?

Secondly, How can you ever have a minimum pay raise amount independent of the rest of the contract? I would be willing to take much less of a rate increase with a 6 hour minimum day and a 4 hour vacation etc. You really have to look at the whole contract.

I suppose you could ask what is your minimum for a rate increase for a 2 year extension - but if you "freeze" the rest of the contract this will cause many (me included) to up my percentage.

Scoop