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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1123580)
I am on record here many times stating what I consider a reasonable contract. It exceeds what SW has.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1123580)
If we are going to get anywhere close to SW wages and retain the aspects of our contract that are better then SW it will come only as a long struggle. A struggle that will require a united pilot group.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1123580)
It is a struggle that will be won or lost behind the scenes in DC via political means.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1123580)
I can only conclude that those who at this stage support DPA would prefer to see DALPA fail and of course the pilots lose income and quality rather then work as a unified group to get the very best contract possible.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1123580)
DPA leadership itself when they started their effort fully recognized the danger this posed and gave themselves a hard deadline to end the process to insure a unified group. Sadly they abandoned what was a correct and smart initial choice for what we have today.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1123580)
Management is toasting them every night on the 4th floor.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1123580)
I want the very best contract I can get for my family. Some think that only requires demanding the most up front. Those who feel that way sadly have not studied the history of contracts under the railway labor act. They would be wise to do so.
Carl |
That had both my wife and I laughing are asses off! Nice work Bar.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1123688)
From the council 20 LEC chairman: "...and of course the opener will not be shared with the membership. That would be like showing your hand in poker."
If you're not confusing the two, then your council chairman has an amazingly poor flair for analogies. |
Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
(Post 1123755)
I honestly don't know how some of you guys keep up with all the posts, and respond in a timely manner. I realize this is "pages ago" but I wanted to give Sailing his due. Please indulge me...
Sailing, While I disagree with you fairly frequently, I respect your opinion and appreciate the thought you put into your posts, and your perspective. I DO recall well what you've said regarding what it will take to get a yes vote from you on our upcoming contract.... I, for one, and I'm sure I speak for many on this forum, appreciate what you've done regarding furthering the interests of Delta pilots in general. Integrity is something that I believe in very, very strongly and I appreciate that quality in others. Thank You! But he doesn't deserve some of the hysterics. In this case, three different posters have criticized him for speculating about the company's opener, and suggested this, somehow, means he's manipulating opinion. None of them could explain how they made the link between what he said and what they accuse him of, but simply attack him... because it's him. If you can't coherently attack a person's thesis, because you have no point, it's OK to actually let it go. You don't get demerits for not posting. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1123803)
And yours is a standard donut retort to the question.. well... how many ARE active? You make the inactive cards sound like military reserves. That right there is funny stuff. Don't you think that there is a fair number of them that just signed with the intent of sending DALPA a message and have no intent of voting DALPA out? I certainly do. I know a few that have done just that. I even thought about it myself until I discovered just how shady they are.. and decided I wanted no part of them. Your personal "warning" means bupkus. However, you may be right that the donuts will grow if there is a weak TA.. but then again.. maybe not. It depends on what they can deliver. So like you, I will stop with this talk on this thread.. you can have the last word.
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Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1123778)
Here's a little nugget:
SW is pulling all Airtran out of DFW. 304,000 enplanements/year left for someone to pick up without poaching any of AMR's flying... Cheers George |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1123799)
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1123799)
Found under the seat in an MD90 today:
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1123678)
Vacation and stuff like that. I think mil leave will run up the raw score along with any personal drops. I don't think that CQ actually raises the RAW score until you go. I had vacation in November and PD'd a few days during the first PCS run and my RAW went to 75. Didn't fly at all that month. If you can afford it, using a PD will bump your RAW score and move you to the bottom of the bucket if you don't want to fly.
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Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1123705)
Even if DALPA doesn't show it to the membership right away, you will hear about it on CNN and be able to read it in USA Today and the AJC within 48 hours.
Oh, and I'm sure Rush Limbaugh will have something to say about the greed of those Evil, over paid, under worked, Union Pilots as well... |
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