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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1093294)
That is the most significant effect AMR's bankruptcy will have on Delta pilots.
There's no way we're going to see a new contract until AMR's future is more clear. Hopefully that will be the most significant effect. There may be worse, not just for us, but the whole industry. Pretty much every scenario is bad. |
Well the good news today is
The Iranians are threatening to stop all oil flow to the west according to Fixed News and the speculators will rake in millions on the margins.......Some of those guys will get millions and some may get pink slips! How many black swan events can a guy get in one career?
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 1093253)
Did it occur to you he may have lied to you too, so HE didn't feel embarrassed?
PG; FAMs make over 100K annually. It is a fact. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1093303)
I wonder what the starting salary of a TSA screener with a 4-year degree and no previous government employment?
Is it above the $20,700 a new hire ASA pilot would get or closer to what a new hire Delta pilot would get on straight reserve of $47,040? :D My wife applied to be a TSA agent - small airport with 15 departures/day. starting pay was 35k for screeners and 65k for supervisor - at that airport. I dont know what they pay at JFK. |
Originally Posted by Brocc15
(Post 1093212)
1000?! That's huge! We don't have that many retiring in the next two years. Any talk of the F word?
-a very junior pilot No, no furloughs. Overstaffed for the winter, correctly staffed for the summer unless more flying is pulled. |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1093326)
My wife applied to be a TSA agent - small airport with 15 departures/day. starting pay was 35k for screeners and 65k for supervisor - at that airport. I dont know what they pay at JFK.
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Originally Posted by brakechatter
(Post 1093317)
Hopefully that will be the most significant effect. There may be worse, not just for us, but the whole industry. Pretty much every scenario is bad.
But hey, if we keep turning a Billion dollar or more profit each year, it is still easier when we are in front of the NMB to point to FDX, UPS, and SWA than it is for Mgt. to point at broke/scraping by airlines..... |
Originally Posted by brakechatter
(Post 1093317)
Hopefully that will be the most significant effect. There may be worse, not just for us, but the whole industry. Pretty much every scenario is bad.
AMR survives, way lower costs, lower debt, new jets with no mtc costs. No room to bargain. We agree to a contract lower than LUV. LUV is the top and stagnates or takes cuts. Patterning is dead. AMR mergers with LCC and or B6. Nuf said. AMR needs to survive, foreign ownership is allowed, in an election year. Bipartisan approval, and Transnational airlines take shape. AMR is parted out. Has the least effect on the DAL pilot group, but the impact is far reaching for all pilots. Suffice to say, Arpey holding on is not good for the industry or its pilots. Their filing is the final chapter in industry consolidation that we have all been waiting on though. One more thing: I would be floored if DAL did not go after JAL again. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1093361)
Yes they are:
AMR survives, way lower costs, lower debt, new jets with no mtc costs. No room to bargain. We agree to a contract lower than LUV. LUV is the top and stagnates or takes cuts. Patterning is dead. AMR mergers with LCC and or B6. Nuf said. AMR needs to survive, foreign ownership is allowed, in an election year. Bipartisan approval, and Transnational airlines take shape. AMR is parted out. Has the least effect on the DAL pilot group, but the impact is far reaching for all pilots. Suffice to say, Arpey holding on is not good for the industry or its pilots. Their filing is the final chapter in industry consolidation that we have all been waiting on though. One more thing: I would be floored if DAL did not go after JAL again. |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1093343)
Will she bring work home with her and give you the "wand treatment?"
I am always looking for the aunt jemima treatment (name the movie Carl), but she likes to keep me on the road - frowny face. She didn't get the job btw, I guess she wasnt morbidly obese nor a smoker. :eek: I'm glad, she's a stay at home mom. |
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