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brakechatter 11-29-2011 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1093294)
That is the most significant effect AMR's bankruptcy will have on Delta pilots.

There's no way we're going to see a new contract until AMR's future is more clear.


Hopefully that will be the most significant effect. There may be worse, not just for us, but the whole industry. Pretty much every scenario is bad.

FIIGMO 11-29-2011 11:10 AM

Well the good news today is
 
The Iranians are threatening to stop all oil flow to the west according to Fixed News and the speculators will rake in millions on the margins.......Some of those guys will get millions and some may get pink slips! How many black swan events can a guy get in one career?

scambo1 11-29-2011 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1093253)
Did it occur to you he may have lied to you too, so HE didn't feel embarrassed?


PG;
FAMs make over 100K annually. It is a fact.

scambo1 11-29-2011 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1093303)
I wonder what the starting salary of a TSA screener with a 4-year degree and no previous government employment?

Is it above the $20,700 a new hire ASA pilot would get or closer to what a new hire Delta pilot would get on straight reserve of $47,040?

:D


My wife applied to be a TSA agent - small airport with 15 departures/day. starting pay was 35k for screeners and 65k for supervisor - at that airport. I dont know what they pay at JFK.

acl65pilot 11-29-2011 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1093212)
1000?! That's huge! We don't have that many retiring in the next two years. Any talk of the F word?

-a very junior pilot


No, no furloughs. Overstaffed for the winter, correctly staffed for the summer unless more flying is pulled.

Bill Lumberg 11-29-2011 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1093326)
My wife applied to be a TSA agent - small airport with 15 departures/day. starting pay was 35k for screeners and 65k for supervisor - at that airport. I dont know what they pay at JFK.

Will she bring work home with her and give you the "wand treatment?"

shiznit 11-29-2011 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by brakechatter (Post 1093317)
Hopefully that will be the most significant effect. There may be worse, not just for us, but the whole industry. Pretty much every scenario is bad.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


But hey, if we keep turning a Billion dollar or more profit each year, it is still easier when we are in front of the NMB to point to FDX, UPS, and SWA than it is for Mgt. to point at broke/scraping by airlines.....

acl65pilot 11-29-2011 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by brakechatter (Post 1093317)
Hopefully that will be the most significant effect. There may be worse, not just for us, but the whole industry. Pretty much every scenario is bad.

Yes they are:

AMR survives, way lower costs, lower debt, new jets with no mtc costs. No room to bargain. We agree to a contract lower than LUV. LUV is the top and stagnates or takes cuts. Patterning is dead.

AMR mergers with LCC and or B6. Nuf said.

AMR needs to survive, foreign ownership is allowed, in an election year. Bipartisan approval, and Transnational airlines take shape.

AMR is parted out. Has the least effect on the DAL pilot group, but the impact is far reaching for all pilots.

Suffice to say, Arpey holding on is not good for the industry or its pilots. Their filing is the final chapter in industry consolidation that we have all been waiting on though.

One more thing: I would be floored if DAL did not go after JAL again.

Bill Lumberg 11-29-2011 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1093361)
Yes they are:

AMR survives, way lower costs, lower debt, new jets with no mtc costs. No room to bargain. We agree to a contract lower than LUV. LUV is the top and stagnates or takes cuts. Patterning is dead.

AMR mergers with LCC and or B6. Nuf said.

AMR needs to survive, foreign ownership is allowed, in an election year. Bipartisan approval, and Transnational airlines take shape.

AMR is parted out. Has the least effect on the DAL pilot group, but the impact is far reaching for all pilots.

Suffice to say, Arpey holding on is not good for the industry or its pilots. Their filing is the final chapter in industry consolidation that we have all been waiting on though.

One more thing: I would be floored if DAL did not go after JAL again.

Some guy on CNBC says AMR wouldn't want ALL of LCC. I see AMR and the East side of LCC going one way, and maybe B6 and AWA going the other, giving B6 a true West Coast hub other than slot controlled LGB. Parker would still go to run AMR, and that would be that. The only ones left, other than SWA, would be AK, F9, NK, Virgin America, Hawaiian, and Sun Country. Eventually there will only be a few big International players from the US, and maybe 2 LCCs. Our Country's airlines will have to compete with the Emirates of the World, who just bought 50 new 773s and has 90 A380s coming, with hot FAs. Hard to compete with that.

scambo1 11-29-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1093343)
Will she bring work home with her and give you the "wand treatment?"


I am always looking for the aunt jemima treatment (name the movie Carl), but she likes to keep me on the road - frowny face.

She didn't get the job btw, I guess she wasnt morbidly obese nor a smoker. :eek: I'm glad, she's a stay at home mom.


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