With your code, and there are ways around that.

The one item I have changed position on is the conflict of interest at ALPA. I too know what I wrote. I ran on there being a conflict. After being told to look at it more closely, I did. The reality is there is not a conflict in the actual sense. It is a perceived conflict, and one that ALPA does a horrible job at correcting.

We negotiate our deals here, and not once has a mainline contract negotiation or TA been altered by pressure from National or the RJ guys exerting pressure for us to sell scope.

If the ALPA National president actually refused to sign a contract because it did not give up enough scope, or took some back, you may have a point, but to date that has not happened.

Other than that one issue, I still want to see change and reform at National, more transparency and member involvement at the local and MEC level, restoration and scope recapture.

And if you think I have had this lobotomy you speak of, you have been talking to the wrong people. Not everything ALPA does is wrong, hate to break it to you. We cannot just demand and get. Talk to your exalted SWAPA buddies about what they want, and then what they actually get.

Exactly. They can launder money any way they see fit by moving the peanut under whatever shell they want to. The same is true with the AS code share abuse as long as both airlines agree what they want to get out fo the deal, they can "share revenue" creatively on connecting and non connecting flights by tinkering with "their end" of the revenue from connecting flights.

R.I.P. Juan Luis Pedro Phillipo de Huevos Epstein

For those over 43 who grew up with the sweat hogs

You got stock? I didn't get stock.

But why have to meet?

Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company opener will be something on the order of a 2 to 4 percent raise with offsets in work rules to cover the cost. Anyone who thinks other wise is smoking some really good stuff.

:rolleyes:

Anyone who thinks 2-4% will pass by the pilot group is smoking some even better stuff!!! :cool:

Come on folks that isn't even in the same city let alone ballpark of what will pass or should get a yes vote. Suggestion... Ask everybody you fly with. "what is your minimum yes vote". I have found some interesting widely varied % increases. I speculate on the M88 it's an avg of 30-40%.

It is perceived and that perception is reality. There doesn't have to be court room evidence of nefarious actions for it to exist. That's what ALPA apologists will try to use to convince you of their position, but if an organization is getting funding from a group which is competitive with another group it represents at the same time then you have a conflict of interest. You don't see lawyers on retainer for the defendant of a lawsuit while that same lawyer sits at the table in the courtroom of the party bringing the lawsuit. That's because the two parties have competing interests. But if you were the judge I guess it would be OK, as long as the two-faced lawyer informed the defendant he wasn't going to be asking for a judgment that he wasn't going to be able to get anyway.

Sorry, it is a conflict of interest!

"Perception is reality". If you think it's just a perceived conflict, then its an actual conflict.

We both know that ALPA wants/needs to be able to say they represent X thousands of pilots. It makes their job easier in DC. I get it. However, don't lie to me saying that you can represent both sides equitably.

EU regulator probes Air France/Delta JV
 

UPDATE 1-EU regulator probes Air France/Delta transatlantic pact


* EU regulator probing if pricing, capacity deals may harm passengers

* EU: pacts may breach EU antitrust rules

* EU also drops separate probe into Air France, Continental, 6 others

BRUSSELS, Jan 27 (Reuters) - EU antitrust regulators are investigating whether pricing and capacity pacts between Air France-KLM, Alitalia and Delta Air Lines Inc. on routes between Europe and North America are bad for passengers.

The European Commission said in a statement on Friday that such deals could breach EU antitrust rules.

"The goal is to ensure that this tie-up does not harm passengers on EU-U.S. routes," the Commission said as it announced the start of the investigation.

It said it would consider the implications of the joint venture compared to the situation where the airlines would otherwise be competing.

The agreements signed between the airlines in 2009 and 2010 cover coordinated transatlantic operations in terms of capacity, schedules, pricing and revenues.

"The parties also share profits and losses of their transatlantic flights," said the Commission, which acts as competition regulator for the European Union.

Alliances allow their members to streamline costs, share revenues and increase scale, a better option for airlines than mergers, which can be difficult and expensive to achieve.

The Commission also said it was closing separate formal antitrust proceedings against several members of the SkyTeam airlines alliance: AeroMexico, Air France and KLM , Alitalia, Czech Airlines, Delta, Korean Air Lines and Continental Airlines, which is part of United Continental.