The gate agents are Regional Elite, and Delta owns them. Good luck with the travel.

Ok, our reserves should have that too. 3 on, 4 off per week sounds pretty good.

Question on booking a positive space deadhead on the front end of trip. Do you book it positive space on travelnet under "company business", then under "crew travel" to get your name put on the reservation? Called crew skeds and they said it's all done under travelnet and "crew travel", but all crew travel does is put your name on an existing reservation. :confused::confused:

Carl

According to SWAPA, their monthly reserve guarantee is 90 TFP and the average reserve gets 105 TFP.

So, just to translate that into an annual income... That means the average reserve SWA Captain gets $234,435.60/year. A 5 year F/O would get $140,767.20. An 8 year F/O would get $154,778.40 (about what I made last year as a 12+ year DC-9 Captain). And a 12 year F/O would get $164,102.40.

BTW, if a 12 year SWA Captain just got the reserve guarantee every month, that's $200,944.80/year. If a 5 year SWA F/O just got the reserve guarantee every month, that's $120,657.60/year.

Just to be clear, We are not actually starting talks early. Our opener is complete and we asked for a meeting with the company to present it to them next week. They have not agreed to start early and we don't expect to receive their opener next week. If they do produce a opener then we are starting 285 days prior instead of 270. I would not exactly call that significant.
Edit: Just got a email stating my post was incorrect. The meeting next week is to discuss opening early. We will not present our opener. The meeting was requested by DALPA not the company. The normal opening date is 270 prior. If the company agrees to open early at best it will be 2 weeks ahead of schedule. The company has not however requested a early opener.

Are you deviating from deadhead or going on your scheduled deadhead flight?

If deviating, you book it under company business and call scheduling within 24 hours to notify them of your deviation from deadhead.

If on your scheduled deadhead, you just add your name under crew travel.

Got it. Thanks bro...

Carl

Good to have that clarification. It's an important distinction.

Thanks,

Carl

Carl,

The Below is a cut and paste from the Live contract. Highlights include:

Book via Company Travel on DELTANET - Not crew travel.
Book within 14 days - flight must not be oversold.
Notify Crew scheduling within 24 hours of scheduled report.

I am doing this tomorrow for the first time myself and just called Crew scheduling. I guess I have to call crew accommodations to change my van time from the airport to the Hotel - anyone have any info on this?

Scoop


E. Off-Rotation Deadheads
25
26 1. A regular pilot may utilize an off-rotation deadhead at the beginning or end of a rotation.
27 2. A regular pilot is required to notify Crew Scheduling of an off-rotation deadhead at the
28 beginning of a rotation within the 24 hours preceding the report of the scheduled
29 deadhead segment.
30 3. A reserve pilot may utilize an off-rotation deadhead at the end of a rotation. He may
31 utilize an off-rotation deadhead at the beginning of a rotation only with permission from
32 Crew Scheduling.
33 4. A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead at the end of a rotation is required to give
34 prior notification to Crew Scheduling. Such notice must be given as soon as possible
35 after the arrival of the pilot’s last flying segment prior to his scheduled deadhead. Such
36 notice will be given via a voice response unit (VRU) or, at pilot option, via a call to Crew
37 Scheduling.
38 5. A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead at the beginning of a rotation is required to
39 report for duty at the departure airport of the first non-deadhead segment as follows:
40 a. one hour before the scheduled departure time of the first non-deadhead segment, or,
41 b. one hour and 30 minutes before the scheduled departure time of the first non42
deadhead segment if that segment includes an ocean crossing.
43 6. The maximum on-duty time of a pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead at the
44 beginning of his rotation will be determined using the report in Section 8 E. 5., or, if the
45 pilot is given prior notice, the adjusted time.
Section 8 - Deadheading
8-4
7. The in-base break-in-duty under Section 12 G. for a pilot who utilizes 1 an off-rotation
2 deadhead at the end of a rotation will be determined using the scheduled release of such
3 rotation.
4 8. A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead to travel from his base, or from a
5 domestic airport or an airport in the Hawaiian Islands (other than his base), in the
6 vicinity of his permanent residence at the beginning of a rotation will be provided
7 positive space on-line transportation if:
8 a. Company Business travel can be booked in TravelNet without overbooking,
9 b. the routing does not pass through the pilot’s base,
10 c. the routing does not exceed the number of deadhead segments originally
11 scheduled,
12 d. the routing is scheduled to arrive at a reasonable time before his required report
13 under Section 8 E. 5., and
14 e. the routing provides for a subsequent flight that is scheduled to arrive at a
15 reasonable time before his required report under Section 8 E. 5. if the pilot’s
16 originally scheduled routing provided for such a subsequent flight.
17 Note one: A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead under Section 8 E. 8. may
18 attempt his booking at any time within 14 days of the report of his rotation.
19 Note two: A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead at the beginning of a rotation
20 that does not satisfy the requirements of Section 8 E. 8. will be responsible for his
21 transportation.
22 Note three: A pilot who is provided a positive space reservation for an off-rotation
23 deadhead under Section 8 E. 8. will make every effort to cancel such reservation in
TravelNet if the pilot no longer requires or intends to use the reservation.2 24
25 9. A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead at the end of a rotation will be responsible
26 for his transportation.
27 Exception one: A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead to travel to:
28 a. his base at the end of a rotation, prior to his scheduled deadhead, will be provided
29 positive space on-line transportation if sales are authorized at the time of his
30 attempted booking.
31 b.
32 Exception two: A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead to travel to a domestic
33 airport or an airport in the Hawaiian Islands (other than his base) in the vicinity of
34 his permanent residence at the end of a rotation will be provided positive space on35
line transportation if:
36 a.1) sales are authorized at the time of the attempted booking,
37 b.2) the routing does not pass through the pilot’s base,
38 c.3) the routing does not exceed the number of deadhead segments scheduled,
39 and
40 d.4) the flight segment(s) departs:
41 1a) prior to the originally scheduled deadhead, or
42 2b) on the same day as the originally scheduled deadhead.
43 Note oneException three: A pilot deadheading under Section 8 E. 9. Exception one or
44 two may attempt his booking at any time after the report of his rotation.
2 Section 8 E. 8. amended by LOA #29 and LOA #30.
Section 8 - Deadheading
8-5
Note two: A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead at the 1 end of a rotation that
2 does not satisfy the requirements of Section 8 E. 9. will be responsible for his
3 transportation.
4 Note three: A pilot who is provided a positive space reservation for an off-rotation
5 deadhead under Section 8 E. 9. will make every effort to cancel such reservation in
TravelNet if the pilot no longer requires or intends to use the reservation.3 6
7 10. Effect on per diem
8 a. When a pilot utilizes an off-rotation deadhead at the beginning of a rotation, his time
9 away from base begins at the later of his actual report or the scheduled report under
10 Section 8 E. 5.
11 b. When a pilot utilizes an off-rotation deadhead at the end of a rotation, his time away
12 from base ends upon his release from his last non-deadhead segment.
13 11. A pilot who utilizes an off-rotation deadhead will be provided lodging as shown on his
14 rotation.
15 12. Upon his request, a pilot awarded a MAC rotation will be provided positive space
16 on-line transportation (including DCI) between a domestic airport in the vicinity of
17 his permanent residence and:
18 a. the location (other than his base and subject to maximum scheduled duty time
19 limits) where he joins his rotation, and/or
20 b. the location from where he is scheduled to deadhead back to his base.4
21
22 F. General
23
24 1. No deadhead will be booked on the jumpseat.
25 2. The Company and Association will meet at the Association’s request to review the
26 selection of air carriers for pilot deadheading. The recommendations of the MEC
27 Chairman will be given due consideration by the Company in the selection of such air
28 carriers. An air carrier that is being rejected for safety related reasons for transportation
29 by the United States Department of Defense will not be utilized for pilot deadheading.
30 3. A pilot who is scheduled to deadhead on a non-ocean crossing flight segment, as
31 scheduled or rerouted, whose duty period:
32 a. is greater than ten hours, and
33 b. includes a deadhead of at least 3:45 hours block-to-block will be assigned an
34 aisle seat in an exit row in the coach cabin if available at the time the rotation is
35 constructed or the applicable deadhead leg is added to the rotation. If an aisle
36 seat in an exit row is not available at such time, an aisle seat in the coach cabin
37 will be assigned. If an aisle seat in the coach cabin is not available, any coach
38 seat may be assigned.
39 4. A pilot scheduled to deadhead on an ocean crossing flight segment will be provided
business class accommodations under Section 16 D.5 40
3 Section 8 E. 9. amended by LOA #29.
4 Section 8 E. 12. added by LOA #20.
5 Section 8 F. titled and Sections 8 F. 3. and 4. added by LOA #20.

To be fair here, that's not really the DCI carrier's fault as the gate agent and ramp at SHV are Delta Elite Services or whatever they're called, owned by DELTA. The majority of stations like SHV are contracted out by DELTA to these types of companies, and wholly owned by DELTA.

Hoser