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Old 03-30-2012, 12:45 PM
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No I didn't say pinnacle was free. It just disappeared when I rounded.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheManager View Post
That I don't know. Always thought only the poster could edit, or perhaps of course, a moderator. Is johnso29 a mod?Disregard the Tomahawk 58 reference as it's insignificant.

Finally, 5% is way to small upfront and Rogers number of 11% seems extremely suspect and an inaccurate figure that "gets us even with SWA."

I definitely want to him to show his work on that.

The above does not matter if there is a scope sale. All becomes a mute point.

I did edit his post, but only to show whom he quoted. I didn't edit any text.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
The lottery is $640M.

You'd make $24M a year on the payout or go for $462M cash option of which the Feds keep $115M to help run the government for 9 minutes and you get $346M.

So say you take the $346M option and buy Pinnacle?


What are you going to do with the remaining $346M?
If I wrote a check to Uncle Sam for $120 million, then I'd hand deliver it to the White House, naked.

Yikes - after I posted that it donned on how many TOS I violated. Sorry!

But here was the source, before having the better judgement not to post the picture (click on at your own peril, boob from every angle shown, arguably there are three boobs in this picture)

http://www.theonion.com/articles/sec...white-h,26541/
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
The lottery is $640M.

You'd make $24M a year on the payout or go for $462M cash option of which the Feds keep $115M to help run the government for 9 minutes and you get $346M.

So say you take the $346M option and buy Pinnacle?


What are you going to do with the remaining $346M?
Check this out: The odds of winning are 1 in 176M. That is based solely on the number of possible combinations of numbers. So, at $1 a ticket, you come out ahead quite a bit!

Only problem is having to share with some other pesky winner(s) and of course finding a 7/11 that can handle my $176M transaction. Wouldn't be surprised to see Goldman or BoA getting in on this =P

Also: scoping out "50 seats" will result in a whole lot of 49 seat rj's. They already carry 48/49 most of the winter anyway.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Phuz View Post
Check this out: The odds of winning are 1 in 176M. That is based solely on the number of possible combinations of numbers. So, at $1 a ticket, you come out ahead quite a bit!

Only problem is having to share with some other pesky winner(s) and of course finding a 7/11 that can handle my $176M transaction. Wouldn't be surprised to see Goldman or BoA getting in on this =P
There is a guy in Idaho that was trying to do this...problem is you can't do it with the quickpick option so you have to manually fill out paper tickets for each number you play. You can play 5 numbers per ticket so you need 35,200,000 tickets to play every number. They figured if one person was filling them out continually with no breaks it would take them 28 years.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by blue vortex View Post
A week of vacation (21hrs) is 39 RAW points.
While it should be paying almost 39 credit hours (shhhh don't tell but I'll settle for 35 if the scope, W-2 and other improvements are good enough).
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon View Post
how would that work? would they have to re-interview? a minimum of the face-to-face interview and the psych visit, I hope.
I could care less what gateway they have to go through as long as 100% of them are junior to 100% of current DL pilots.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
ASA/Expressjet is doing DAL's interview profile now. Others probably would just get a year of probation, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. It a rumor.

Fact is that if they gave then seniority numbers and they all agreed to a prenup with a SLI with us, we still would have to still go though the same SLI, single carrier status petition etc. Throw in a few rogue 20 year captains suing, and it could take years. All the while we are still effectively not a merged list, no joint contract, and they fly unlimited 76 seat jets unless we cap them until we have a fully resolved seniority list.

Watch out for theses types of things that lack details. We would still need protections in the interim to agree to it. The process still needs to take place, and without protections, our risk is great.
That's what I worry about too. Better to start a clean brand new certificate and start from scratch as they are drawn down in a controllable fashion. We can't risk a seniority grab for any reason, especially while trying to help another pilot group.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy View Post
There is a guy in Idaho that was trying to do this...problem is you can't do it with the quickpick option so you have to manually fill out paper tickets for each number you play. You can play 5 numbers per ticket so you need 35,200,000 tickets to play every number. They figured if one person was filling them out continually with no breaks it would take them 28 years.
You can go to the lotto office and give them $179 Mill and they will guarantee you a winner combination without having to fill out 179 million tickets. It was on the news the other day. Like someone else stated, your biggest risk is having to share the jackpot with multiple people. Odds are 12-1 that there wont be a winner tonight. Odds favor 4 winning tickets tonight.
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
DAL can operate 1 more 51-76 seat RJ's off-list for every 2.5 50 seat jets that are removed from service, up to a limit of X airframes (say 50-100)?


Is it a gain or loss....
Its a huge loss because we are paying for something that is going to happen anyway. We are just making it easier on the company to do what they want to do a little bit sooner. In exchange we permanently sell more DC-9-10 replacement jet jobs to the lowest of the low, cut throat, ace dealer bidder. That will permanently increase the downward pressures on our careers especially at the small narrowbody level. So if the 717's are really a part of this deal, we are being played like a fiddle if this ends up happening.

While we're at it, how about if we get rid of the hats we will accept a 75% raise. Or penthouse hotel suites only if we are willing to change short call from 2 hours to 24 hours?

Us proposing something as asinine as that would be similar to the company trying to bribe us into getting rid of 50 seaters that they can't get rid of fast enough so they can outsource more of our jobs AND provide more pressure to our existing jobs.

That said, I don't think they would offer any significant AS/JV reform just to get out of 50 seater leases that they will be out of eventually anyway.

Now if they want to get serious, and wanted something like what you suggested, they would have no reason not to include a sunset on ALL 51-76 seat jets once they got the *temporary* relief they needed to pay off the 50 seater loan sharks. But they won't be interested in that. They will want permanent 51-76 increases in exchange for something else they also want. Foxtrot that noise.
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