Absolutely, the question is how? The bring them all on our list idea is more ideology than pragmatic. Holding the line sounds good, but the line has too many hours, departures, passenger miles flown by others. I hear the mantra, the 50 seaters are toast, but they still have a lot of them, with a lot of lease obligations and at the rate they are parking them they'll be here for a awhile and when they are gone, what's to stop them from ultimately filling the 50 seater market with fuel efficient turbo-props? Most 50 seat markets are now short haul, a turboprop may be a better aircraft from Ashville-Atlanta. There needs to be a solution which puts more Delta pilots in the cockpit. And we haven't even touched on enhancing JV protection.

Wow! You surprised me. I did not expect to be in agreement with your response.

The question really is HOW?

Since the company owns the seniority list and since DALPA is tied to ALPA merger policy...

Negotiate qualifiers into the flow, i.e.: the same requirements to get hired off the street. That screens the "tools" from flowing. It's sort of a guaranteed interview at that point. limit flows to part of each class.

You should get your head out of the sand regarding "quality" pilots. We are all in this together.

Some of you are making the point of bringing the RJ's & pilots in house. You are saying the merger policy would be an issue possibly placing some RJ guys above current DL pilots? Think the vast majority of RJ guys would have zero problem going to the bottom of the list. This can't be accompolished?

Sailing, good post.

If you guys want to hand select pilots, how are you going to do it when the numbers hit almost 900 a year. Dci is now doing routes like lga-Dfw in a 175. That's the plane delta wants on that route and it's under contract at dci. The shareholders of the regional airlines are not going to just let their investments go away. But pinnacle is different, they are in chapt 11. I might come across as an entitled pilot our crappy generation but my comments on here are the most sincere they could be. I have been here 8 years and my only goal is to make the industry better. This industry sucks, delta has interest in pinnacle, it may be to get rid of them or it may be to drive our costs so low that we undercut everyone else. Almost 800 guys are about to lose their jobs, where are they going to go? Many will leave the industry. The only reason I am bringing up any of this is because I see pinnacles chapter 11 as a chance to make a change in the industry. It's got to start somewhere why not now?

Al, Pinnacle, Sailing Et. Al.,

ALPA, specifically the Delta MEC does not want a merger with regional airlines. Even the MidWest pilots learned this the hard way. When the issue comes up the usual suspects will roll out the same old tired scarecrows (regional qualifications and seniority demands) to stand in the way of unity.

Compass was as close as we are going to get and the powers that be in the Delta MEC ran over the expressed will of the Delta pilots like a "freight train."*

Term used by the C44 Chair when the Compass resolution passed.

Of course DALPA has no say in the matter. If the company chose tomorrow to merge the airlines then DALPA would have to start the seniority list integration process. Its a management decision to merge or not merge airlines. DALPA can do nothing more then suggest at best.

In honor of the Masters
 

No RJs leaving AGS on Monday ! All 757s (on DAL, or DEL if you're a reporter)

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=500&h=713

There's already precedence set for where pilots from DCI carriers go. This is outlined by the flow through agreements that were at one time in force between Delta and Mesaba and Compass. Mainline shouldn't tolerate seniority hopscotch by RJ folks. That being said they should all be offered a no displacement fence on their current equipment with bidding rights to our equipment.