Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-12-2012, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
i know its hump day and you guys are probably... well whatever you do on hump day.
but bids close tomorrow.
but bids close tomorrow.
04-12-2012, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So I might have a very good reason to need to fly up to PHF this weekend, which AirTran no longer serves. But you can't nonrev as they've replaced the 3-4 MD88s with 5 CRJ200s with an occasional midnight MD88.
I was just surprised the ticket prices. $1181... each. Can't buy tickets for 4. But if I'm flexible and leave tomorrow, $4,700. All on a CRJ-200.
Try that for RASM-CASM on a CRJ-200. And we really think these things will go away?
(sorry flyallnite, I didn't see your post, but I hope there is a bust cycle or we'll bust an opportunity to make more money with bigger jets)
I was just surprised the ticket prices. $1181... each. Can't buy tickets for 4. But if I'm flexible and leave tomorrow, $4,700. All on a CRJ-200.
Try that for RASM-CASM on a CRJ-200. And we really think these things will go away?
(sorry flyallnite, I didn't see your post, but I hope there is a bust cycle or we'll bust an opportunity to make more money with bigger jets)
04-12-2012, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
That is the magic of capacity restrictions. It also is the justification for Corporate flight departments. When I flew corporate all it took is a couple of these $1,000 fares to make taking our Sabre 65 a money saving proposition.t
Maybe it's just finding a place for a 50 seat contract or twelve....
04-12-2012, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
That is the magic of capacity restrictions. It also is the justification for Corporate flight departments. When I flew corporate all it took is a couple of these $1,000 fares to make taking our Sabre 65 a money saving proposition.t
When the lines intersect it will be interesting if we take our hoarded cash and wage a massive offensive and brow beat the LCC's hard (which we can do and we can win big time) or will we accept it as some new normal like we have in Boston and treat it like permanently yielded market share?
04-12-2012, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
it is a popular misconception. There are things the 88 cares about, like it's gate still occupied by someone else with no other gates around.
04-12-2012, 05:53 AM
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FTB,
I think we were onto something over the JB jet blast vid and discussion. They Closed the thread, not sure why. Who woulda thunk it!
I think we were onto something over the JB jet blast vid and discussion. They Closed the thread, not sure why. Who woulda thunk it!
04-12-2012, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails
Well I guess it isn't all bad news for the Shuttle downgrade; here's something posted from airliners.net:
-The LGA-BOS route averages a 37% load factor and loses about $1 million per month
-DL is still the market share leader on the LGA-BOS sector.
The A319s will shift back to the domestic hub and spoke system and appear on the following:
-JFK-BOS: 4x daily and cancel the 6x daily OH CRJ-900 flights
-LGA-JAX: Equipment upgrade
-LGA-PWM: Replace an OH CRJ-900
-DTW-DFW: Upgrade a CRJ-900 flight
-DTW-MCI: Upgrade a CRJ-900 flight
-ATL-ORD/LIT/HOU: Upgrade one flight each
-The LGA-BOS route averages a 37% load factor and loses about $1 million per month
-DL is still the market share leader on the LGA-BOS sector.
The A319s will shift back to the domestic hub and spoke system and appear on the following:
-JFK-BOS: 4x daily and cancel the 6x daily OH CRJ-900 flights
-LGA-JAX: Equipment upgrade
-LGA-PWM: Replace an OH CRJ-900
-DTW-DFW: Upgrade a CRJ-900 flight
-DTW-MCI: Upgrade a CRJ-900 flight
-ATL-ORD/LIT/HOU: Upgrade one flight each
Originally Posted by georgetg
Zero sum gain in terms of flying. More RJs in LGA, fewer in other places...
Obviously Delta decides where to put the jets.
The company will make more money, so that's a plus...
It just makes the "we'll upgauge as the market develops" line a little questionable...LGA ORD is the biggest market and it's 100% RJs...
And as we become more "vertically integrated" as a company by buying an oil refinery (a good thing IMHO) we continue to outsource our core competency to third party vendors because it's all the same...
Cheers
George
Obviously Delta decides where to put the jets.
The company will make more money, so that's a plus...
It just makes the "we'll upgauge as the market develops" line a little questionable...LGA ORD is the biggest market and it's 100% RJs...
And as we become more "vertically integrated" as a company by buying an oil refinery (a good thing IMHO) we continue to outsource our core competency to third party vendors because it's all the same...
Cheers
George
04-12-2012, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
If I don't hear it straight from a hot cheerleader chick then it doesn't register.
And don't worry folks, if you forgot to bid, you'll probably get a better line.
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
That is the magic of capacity restrictions. It also is the justification for Corporate flight departments. When I flew corporate all it took is a couple of these $1,000 fares to make taking our Sabre 65 a money saving proposition.t
Did you personally fly that thing btw? What was it like? I know we've talked about it on here before but I've heard it's fantastic.
04-12-2012, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
FTB,
I think we were onto something over the JB jet blast vid and discussion. They Closed the thread, not sure why. Who woulda thunk it!
I think we were onto something over the JB jet blast vid and discussion. They Closed the thread, not sure why. Who woulda thunk it!
04-12-2012, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Crazy news. I recently talked to one of the chief pilots in NYC. We discussed the LGA gate swap, and the loads on the shuttles. The CP said that DAL was going to up gauge both shuttles to mainline aircraft because of demand. Then exactly the opposite happens.
Where is this news posted? I don't see it on Deltanet anywhere.
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