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Old 04-15-2012, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Which means that they probably have given DAL the go ahead to a certain dollar amount.
A quote from the article " Delta also will brief the leaders of its pilots union on the potential oil refinery plans during union Master Executive Council meetings on April 18 that also will cover numerous other topics, the source said."

Hmm.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti View Post
Beautiful New York City.
Thank you, that's good news. I don't know any of the NYC guys. But if they all told you that scope is not for sale, they're my kind of guys.

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Old 04-15-2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon View Post
That pretty much sums up why ALPA is off the property if the TA comes back with any scope sellouts whatsoever.
I doubt it. If it passes, then ALPA stays, if it doesn't, then we have a chance to either recall our reps, vote in new guys during an election, or keep the ones you got if you like them and they run again. DPA isn't a credible alternative and I doubt we'll join the IBT. JMO
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
No, that sure isn't a good idea. But it'll be critical for you to stand strong and vote NO Brocc. You and every pilot on the bottom half of the seniority list need to vote NO if this is what the MEC ends up ratifying. If 100% of the bottom half votes NO, then it's NO...because you've definitely got my NO vote here from the top half.

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This will probably shock the hell out of you Carl since you think I don't give a rat's a$$ about scope, but I would vote no too.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti View Post
My reps wrote me right back and told me that not only is scope not for sale, they want to recapture it.
That's not what the donut crowd says...
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
Oh hell to the yeah. I'll fly a Piper Cub for the right price.

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Just curious.. what would that price be? I mean we are downgaging aircraft with every order.. so what WOULD the right price for a piper cub be? Or more appropriately, a 76 seat RJ?
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
Bar,

If on the other hand as you say above outsourcing 4th generation jets would be a big mistake (I agree) - Do you think DALPA would be more or less aggressive resisting more outsourcing since the DPA became an issue?

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Hard to say. My understanding is our pilots survey results put pay first.

FWIW, I've never heard any of the Reps I've spoken with mention changing a single thing in response to the DPA.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon View Post
Using that argument, could one say campaigning/voting against incumbent elected government officials "undermines their work?"

That would be a bit dictatorial/undemocratic, don't you think?

The concept here is "accountability." It's in short supply within the ranks of DALPA and ALPA.
Not at all. You are failing to make the distinction between an election and a revolution.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:33 PM
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Funny how the last eight pages of this thread has been filled with everyone getting fired up over "Carl's rumor mongering".

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
From talking to three different reps, the evidence is pointing to the "opportunity" being a large influx of ~115 seat aircraft. We are being asked to facilitate this by raising the 76 seat aircraft limit by 35 to 50 aircraft.
If any of what Carl wrote was true, maybe he'll share the names of the Reps he talked to so we can verify for ourselves?


Carl, what's your source? (Other than "from talking to three different reps, the evidence is pointing to the opportunity" BULLSH!T.)

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Old 04-15-2012, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon View Post
Using that argument, could one say campaigning/voting against incumbent elected government officials "undermines their work?"

That would be a bit dictatorial/undemocratic, don't you think?

The concept here is "accountability." It's in short supply within the ranks of DALPA and ALPA.
Bacon Bits,

I thought you were leaving? What brought you back? The need to offer more useless drivel about conspiracy theories and black helicopter stuff?

Just so you know, "they're still following you, you just can't see them"!

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