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Old 04-25-2012 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Well put. Something's gotta give in Section 23.

One would hope. Lets see what comes out of negotiations. Many felt that LOA 29 fixed section 23.
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:23 AM
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Any more tidbits on "creative solutions" WRT fleet refreshment and/or large so called "RJ's"?
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Gonna do a drive by here..... Is our "demanding" improvements really good for "constructive engagement" with management? I know what I did with my kids when they "demanded" something because they think they deserved it.... Better to show how they would be better off giving us what we want...

Agree with the rest of your post.

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I don't have any kids, and I agree 100% with what you said here.
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Many felt that LOA 29 fixed section 23.
Many more feel LOA 29 did NOT fix Section 23.
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Any more tidbits on "creative solutions" WRT fleet refreshment and/or large so called "RJ's"?
Very quiet, as far as I could tell. Not even comments on whether they wanted to get rid of more 50-seaters than previously announced. They did say the economics don't work.
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Scoop,

So you take a group that agreed to pass something to the membership, and expose the differences of opinions within? I don't think that's smart.
I don't think that would necessarily be not smart.. but I don't think it would serve any useful purpose.

I thank many here are hitting on something though. This will be the first contract that will be negotiated with as much internet communication available as there currently is. It might be that a more instantaneous form of communication i.e. a chat room type thing (or is that an old concept?) to discuss the pro and con of the TA would be preferable to a paper that is but one man's opinion. Interesting nonetheless...
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Looks like Tsquare, Scambo, and Sinkr8 all went heavy into the carbs, for some serious posting energy.

Who switches to malt first, for endurance?
APC is mental dessert (carbs) when I've got the other screens going. When I need a break, I come here.

I switch to malt at 5pm.
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:42 AM
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A little help! I have recency scheduled for Friday in ATL do you know if I can book DH from home or is it just from base?
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I don't think that would necessarily be not smart.. but I don't think it would serve any useful purpose.

I thank many here are hitting on something though. This will be the first contract that will be negotiated with as much internet communication available as there currently is. It might be that a more instantaneous form of communication i.e. a chat room type thing (or is that an old concept?) to discuss the pro and con of the TA would be preferable to a paper that is but one man's opinion. Interesting nonetheless...
I think there are guys that specialize in letting something pass, but not being on the record as being for it. This just gives them more of a platform. Either the MEC agrees to pass this on to ratify, or it doesn't. If it passes it on, it needs to do a paper such as Ferd suggested, which would serve the same purpose as a pro/con because it would give us something to chew on, EXCEPT it wouldn't let people take politically-motivated positions.

If I was trying my hand at populism, I would write the CON paper, arguing like crazy that we should have gotten MORE. That's amazingly simple to do. By keeping the inside politics inside, you avoid this.

I think we all agree we want peace and quiet, and no sell-job. Ferd gave a very elegant method for the MEC to give a post-action summary, after which they can then shut up and let us decide.
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey
A little help! I have recency scheduled for Friday in ATL do you know if I can book DH from home or is it just from base?
From home, it's training.
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