No, I think you were right the first time Carl. ;):D

GJ

Well, I guess it had to happen:


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:D

Carl

Here we go into the end game folks.

The full court pressure of expectation management and probing has begun.

First, does anyone believe for a second that all of the rumors and leaked information at this point in time is just a coincidence? Think about it. Information is coming out of the CPO -management- and the LCA troop -think they are management and are given managements message to deliver-.

Additionally, you have one gentleman that recently stepped down from his DALPA MEC Committee postion who recently went back to line flying a full schedule who finds this flying "refreshing for a change." Great! Look forward to seeing you out there.

However, he seems to be posting on the other board controlling the message constantly. When I am flying a full line, I don't have that kind of time to be as present and active as this person.

So, what is this all about? It is the end game. The leaks are not coming from the NC. Not likely from DALPA either. No, this is coming from the company's labor consultants and management. Supervisors are the front line troops in spreading their message using informal chats and speeches to do so.

In my opinion, this is nothing more than a probe and expectation manipulation all in one.

If the rumor has it as a 20%, then 5%, 5% along with 76/90 and Alaska increases offer, they sit back and watch what the trial balloon does. This rumor also sets an image and scenario that we react to mentally and emotionally and then vocalize.

Then, the TA comes out and its 24%, 6%, 6% some 76/90 "production balancing' and lets say a freeze on more ALK code. Well then, that is not as bad as the picture we were all painting and creating angst over. We came out ahead, right.

Just beaware of perhaps why we are hearing rumors now, and the desired effect of those that are controlling the release and content of them.

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[QUOTE=TheManager;1179973]Here we go into the end game folks.



In my opinion, this is nothing more than a probe and expectation manipulation all in one.

If the rumor has it as a 20%, then 5%, 5% along with 76/90 and Alaska increases offer, they sit back and watch what the trial balloon does. This rumor also sets an image and scenario that we react to mentally and emotionally and then vocalize.



Manager,

I really doubt it. First of all 90 + percent of Delta Pilots do not post on the forums - so I doubt the trial balloon would have as much visibility as you give it credit for.

Hell - only 60% of guys participated in the contract survey and DALPA was thrilled at that.

Secondly the guys who do post on here for the most part are junior and to some extent try to out demand each other in wanting 70% pay raises - so I doubt a 20% trial balloon would get any traction.

Finally, some individuals may put out outlandish statements such as DAL Management invented the question mark, giving away 90 seat Scope etc, but I doubt there is any organized management plan to start false rumors and then gauge the reaction as a company research project.

Scoop

This is exactly it. I'm tired of hearing people talk about having to make decisions with a gun to their head. Any decisions worth making is likely going to be tough. If we sell out anymore of those RJ's OR JV's then it is on us not the kid trying to get a job right out of flight school. Come on people wake up, I'm starting to have dejavu here. I don't even want to HEAR about the d*** pay scales until they lock up the scope. If you aren't flying it, really doesn't matter how much your getting paid now does it! :rolleyes:

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Rumor Control

giving away 90 seat Scope (this was a quote slightly taken out of context from above)

I've never said this before, but if this was the case, and DALPA brought this TA to memrat, ALPA would be off the property quickly.

I have got to give my reps more credit than that. This rumor is (bordering on) ridiculous. Lets have a collective unwadding of panties and dammit somebody post some underboob.

Just remember, if we dont like what we get when its all said and done; we have no-one to blame but ourselves.

TEN

[QUOTE=Scoop;1179983]
1. Not so much research project as it is psychological manipulation.


2. Yes the boards here are active as they are at DALPA, but have you been in a crew lounge or van lately? Haven't heard this much since C2k voting window was open and we don't even have a TA.


3. More under/side/top boob is needed. What are the rules on barely there thongs?

[QUOTE=TheManager;1179995]
Rules?

We dont need no stinking rules.