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80ktsClamp 05-12-2012 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1187125)
It'd be a lot more fun it if it was called at T&A and not just TA.

Just saying.

That is quite true.

So is it true that you possibly lived up to your namesake this month?

forgot to bid 05-12-2012 08:08 PM

Wow... this 30 day recency popup looks really scary.

forgot to bid 05-12-2012 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1187127)
That is quite true.

So is it true that you possibly lived up to your namesake this month?

FTS now.

Forgot to Hit Submit.

:D

No, I don't think I screwed up. I do remember hitting submit on the 8th because I remember saying to my wife "that's done for now..." The problem was I didn't save the bid for that extra piece of mind, and forgot to go back and save it because I didn't need to change anything after all.

Then it dawns at 8:45 this morning "oh crap, I didn't save that... DID I HIT SUBMIT!?!?!" It's no different than "did I leave the iron on? Is the garage door down? Were we really cleared to land?"

It's that kind of crap. It's what made that little inner voice a while back just say "@#%@)(#% I QUIT!!!!" and left me in a blank stare for so long.

Rolf 05-12-2012 08:25 PM

I've been out out drinking, so take everything with a grain of salt: scope matters, no matter what the girls tell you. Qol, in a capitalist system productive pilots=fewer pilots on the list. Imho you should offer to be more productive, but somehow tie it in with retirements/growth to avoid stagnating seniority growth. Good luck, we are all counting on you!

LeineLodge 05-12-2012 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Rolf (Post 1187135)
I've been out out drinking, so take everything with a grain of salt: scope matters, no matter what the girls tell you. Qol, in a capitalist system productive pilots=fewer pilots on the list. Imho you should offer to be more productive, but somehow tie it in with retirements/growth to avoid stagnating seniority growth. Good luck, we are all counting on you!

Honesty is so refreshing. Cheers :D

gloopy 05-12-2012 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1187108)
Normally I'm right with your posts, but here's where you lost me:

1. You've gone into deep speculation well beyond the level of detail that is known.

2. You've gone further and speculated into the consequences of that which you speculated on.

You're right, and I don't claim I have any inside information I'm just calling it like I see it based on all information available, reading between the lines and tons of past precedent across the industry. Something about if we refuse to learn from history...

Anyway its just a prediction based on all that, but I am absolutely certain of the inevitability of it all. While I would be ecstatic to have to eat crow and say "boy was I wrong!" I think it is crystal clear we are being groomed for exactly what I and others see coming.

If (when) it happens, I won't say "see I told you so" to gloat. Far, far from it. The brevity in it all will be just one more grain of sand on the beach of history we all must walk on to get to where we want to be. If (when) it happens, if even one or two DL pilots think to themselves how someone else could have been so sure and then ended up being right, maybe just a little ray of light will be shed on the shadowy process that has been stuck in a negative feedback loop of consistently themed mistakes at the most foundational levels of our profession in general and our pilot group in particular.

And if it doesn't and I'm wrong, I will be the first to call myself out on it, believe me. But if we see that I (and many others) are right, the point isn't that we were right or who was right but rather why we were right and how we came to that conclusion and what can we do about it going forward to trap these errors instead of letting them continue to get by us.

scambo1 05-12-2012 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1187144)
You're right, and I don't claim I have any inside information I'm just calling it like I see it based on all information available, reading between the lines and tons of past precedent across the industry. Something about if we refuse to learn from history...

Anyway its just a prediction based on all that, but I am absolutely certain of the inevitability of it all. While I would be ecstatic to have to eat crow and say "boy was I wrong!" I think it is crystal clear we are being groomed for exactly what I and others see coming.

If (when) it happens, I won't say "see I told you so" to gloat. Far, far from it. The brevity in it all will be just one more grain of sand on the beach of history we all must walk on to get to where we want to be. If (when) it happens, if even one or two DL pilots think to themselves how someone else could have been so sure and then ended up being right, maybe just a little ray of light will be shed on the shadowy process that has been stuck in a negative feedback loop of consistently themed mistakes at the most foundational levels of our profession in general and our pilot group in particular.

And if it doesn't and I'm wrong, I will be the first to call myself out on it, believe me. But if we see that I (and many others) are right, the point isn't that we were right or who was right but rather why we were right and how we came to that conclusion and what can we do about it going forward to trap these errors instead of letting them continue to get by us.

Gloopy, I am right with you and Jack B. The frustrating mysterious thing about forums is that what we type is only cathartic to the typist - and often glossed over or poo pooed by the readers.

I see almost crystal clear where this whole thing is going...there isn't really even a curtain hiding the great OZ if only we could open our eyes.

Keep typing and keep spouting, I (not that it matters) think you are on the right track.

DAL73n 05-13-2012 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1186702)
You mean I'm supposed to take time away from APC to read all that crap they send out?? I did see the RNAV Vis. stuff...now I'll have to go back and look for the -other one-.

Oh, and since I don't already own a "Tablet" should I get the iPad, or the Nook, or the Kindle or just wait for what DL is going to give me, fo' free? :D

Better decide what you like - no way you're going to want to put personal items on the company tablet (books, movies, Netflix). Now it might be beneficial to get the same one (iPad?) to get everything formatted (pubs, etc) the right way or for ease of use of CQ materials since the new tablet will probably get a lot of that stuff.

Elvis90 05-13-2012 04:43 AM

3 Speculative Picks from the Airline Industry

by Renee O'Farrell

The opportunity in the airline industry is a hard thing to pass up. The airline industry is fairly small, at least in terms of players. It is really closer to an oligarchy-- there are a handful of major players and barriers to entry are high. It is almost like investing in the personal computing industry. Sure, there are some companies, like Acer, that have some measure of flooding in the industry. But, for the most part, when someone goes to buy a computer, he or she is going to be looking at an Apple (AAPL), a DELL (DELL) or HP (HPQ). The same is true with airlines. When you go to book a flight, odds are you're going to be looking at either Delta (DAL), United Continental (UAL) or US Airways (LCC).

Moreover, people love to travel, and for many, the economy means that they couldn't afford to. As things rebound financially, more will be booking that flight that got put off -- and airline share prices reflect this. Looking solely at the three major airlines in the United States, each company on this list represents a good investment opportunity. They have returned over 24% year to date and are priced at less than 5 times their forward earnings. They also have strong expected earnings growth.

Delta is the largest of the companies on this list, with a market cap of $9.20 billion. The stock is currently trading at less than $11 a share, meaning that it is priced at only 4.25 times forward earnings. To date, the stock has returned almost 35%. If analysts are correct and the company is able to increase its earnings by an average of 17.25% a year over the next 5 years, there is still room for this stock to run. I highly recommend the stock as a buy.

3 Speculative Picks From The Airline Industry - Seeking Alpha

Sink r8 05-13-2012 05:00 AM

It's a little difficult to take Renee all that seriously when she accidentally overlooks AMR and Southwest, but otherwise, she might have a point.


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