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scambo1 05-12-2012 12:20 PM

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hockeypilot44 05-12-2012 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1186925)
5.5/day min Avg calendar day for line holders will drive more staffing.

Equal pay for reserves will drive more staffing.

Any additional credit for vacation will drive more staffing.

Any additional credit for training will drive more staffing.

Any increase to vacation accrual will drive more staffing.

Why don't we all take a deep breath and wait for a full package(if we even get that far) before jumping off the "It's a concessionary contract!" cliff.....jeez!!!

None of the stuff you mention has been agreed to. The things I am talking about have been agreed to according to our negotiator's notepad. It seems the company is not agreeing to very many positive items. Ending the sick harassment program is bull. That program shouldn't be here to begin with. The company started it on its own last year. Ending the 75 percent sick pay is a win, but as I understand it is just restoring an old contract item that was stolen from us.

sinca3 05-12-2012 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1186846)
No.... you don't. The Gold HRA plus Dental is $262/month for family.

You've just proved the point of other posters, that people routinely exaggerate their situation, then use those "facts" to complain about it.

Your correct it was a fat finger mistake on the phones keyboard, should have double checked before I posted. My arguement still stands though.

scambo1 05-12-2012 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by 52Lobstah (Post 1186575)
More Delta Air Line pilots should be everybody's focus during this negotiation process!


Think about that.

We all want growth of course. It's a seniority system.

Do we want to have to pay for that growth?

Do we want to accept lower pay and continued lousy scope for the "promise" of growth?

None of us know with absolute certainty what the exact immediate contract driver is. Maybe some NDA signers want to think they know, but the union is not very good at seeing 3-5 years down the road. In fact, I don't think they even see that as their job. I do, but they don't IMO.

In linear order, this contract needs to focus on scope as job 1. Pay in all its forms as job 2. Workrules as job 3. The NN pretty much only hit on job 3 with a hint at job 1. The negotiators must be always mindful of what those 3 mean in a future SLI / merger.

I really don't want to throw stones, but in this case, I will toss a pebble...We have a "constructive engagement" union at a time when we NEED a progressive junkyard dog union. We have tremendous, almost unbelievable leverage right now. Let's not waste it with unacceptable results.

I have a concern that we (DALPA MEC) still thinks its our job to fix the company's shortcomings...As if they were on the board of directors.

I truly hope my concerns are misplaced and I can eat a heaping helping of crow.

johnso29 05-12-2012 02:48 PM

Not good for business
 
Russian plane wreckage found in Indonesia - CNN.com

KC10 FATboy 05-12-2012 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1186980)

Not good for Russia, Putin, or Sukhoi. When you ask to descend to 6000 feet and the terrain is at 7000 feet, well, bad things happen.

buzzpat 05-12-2012 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1186854)
It's very strict in regard to what you can access as well only in non-sterile cockpit only, but yes.

Clamp, can you shoot me a copy? ACL is dropping the ball.;)

buzzpat 05-12-2012 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1186702)
You mean I'm supposed to take time away from APC to read all that crap they send out?? I did see the RNAV Vis. stuff...now I'll have to go back and look for the -other one-.

Oh, and since I don't already own a "Tablet" should I get the iPad, or the Nook, or the Kindle or just wait for what DL is going to give me, fo' free? :D

iPads rock. Leave the laptop at home. I ended up buying one. I was selected as one of the guys to do the cockpit test but never got squat.:D

80ktsClamp 05-12-2012 04:47 PM

PM sent to all those that asked! I've been out in the yard all day. I assume ACL has been, too.

Pruning 80 shrubs and cleaning up after... blargh.

More Bacon 05-12-2012 04:50 PM

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