Delta Hiring News
03-03-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Funk
There are some sim instructors that commute. They kind of bid for which periods they want to instruct, but it isn’t as robust as bidding on the line, so you’ll sometimes have very senior sim instructors working sim periods that weren’t anywhere near what they had wanted to do. So, commutability is more correctly described as, “it depends.” YMMV
As for progression, that depends entirely on the rest of your resume and application, but I’ve never heard of a separate pathway to guarantee a job or interview. If you are an SLI (seniority list instructor), you are paid 85 hrs guarantee at the highest rate you can hold for the seat you’re in. For example, you can instruct the 717 right seat, but if there is one pilot junior to you on the 777, then you get paid 777 FO pay. I have no idea what the pay is for a contract instructor.
As for progression, that depends entirely on the rest of your resume and application, but I’ve never heard of a separate pathway to guarantee a job or interview. If you are an SLI (seniority list instructor), you are paid 85 hrs guarantee at the highest rate you can hold for the seat you’re in. For example, you can instruct the 717 right seat, but if there is one pilot junior to you on the 777, then you get paid 777 FO pay. I have no idea what the pay is for a contract instructor.
03-15-2019, 08:33 AM
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It's an interesting approach. But are there to many gotchya's? I could see where trying to come in as a contract instructor would look great to the company in motivation and dedication to work there. However if you left a flying job and don't log one hour of actual flight experience how well would that be received? Would you be given an interview? A class date? Or would you be disregarded since you have had any real work flight experience in the time your instructing. Could see it play out either way but would make it clear the goal of accepting the position. If it guaranteed myself a job as a pilot, I'd leave what doing now to pursue it as a pathway, especially if you could commute in.🧐
03-15-2019, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by runinonfumes
Non seniority.
Most of the first 2/3s of a Delta pilot training cycle is done with DGS instructors. The last third is more Delta instructors, but not always.
Many of the instructors are Delta pilots who have retired and come back to teach (sometimes on their latest airplane, someone not). I had an instructor who came from Emirates who just wanted to get back to the US. As far as I know, there is no way to directly progress from a NSLI position to a seniority position, other than applying and getting hired like everyone else. Now of course, if you're a good worker, a letter of Rec from the Fleet Captain probably helps out a lot.
03-15-2019, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Non-senority list instructors are hired and employed through Delta Global Services (DGS) They are a separate company (but obviously connected somehow). The job site is at https://www.dalgs.com/dgs-job-search/ - I think the job you want to look for is TRN NSLI Instructor (in the Job Field).
Most of the first 2/3s of a Delta pilot training cycle is done with DGS instructors. The last third is more Delta instructors, but not always.
Many of the instructors are Delta pilots who have retired and come back to teach (sometimes on their latest airplane, someone not). I had an instructor who came from Emirates who just wanted to get back to the US. As far as I know, there is no way to directly progress from a NSLI position to a seniority position, other than applying and getting hired like everyone else. Now of course, if you're a good worker, a letter of Rec from the Fleet Captain probably helps out a lot.
Most of the first 2/3s of a Delta pilot training cycle is done with DGS instructors. The last third is more Delta instructors, but not always.
Many of the instructors are Delta pilots who have retired and come back to teach (sometimes on their latest airplane, someone not). I had an instructor who came from Emirates who just wanted to get back to the US. As far as I know, there is no way to directly progress from a NSLI position to a seniority position, other than applying and getting hired like everyone else. Now of course, if you're a good worker, a letter of Rec from the Fleet Captain probably helps out a lot.
If you’re qualified, I would think that getting to know the fleet Captains and SLI’s through working for DGS, would be a great way to get a job with Delta. It’ll take at least 3 years for your commitment to end and an opportunity to interview, but if the phone isn’t ringing now, it seems like a great alternative.
03-16-2019, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
My last CQ, the day 1 instructor was separating from the military, (KC135 Pilot), as his last day was approaching, he hadn’t found a flying job so he took an instructor job with DGS. A few days into his training as an A320 instructor he received a letter for an interview with Delta. He had already committed to the instructor job, but he said Delta promised him an interview when his 3 year commitment was up.
If you’re qualified, I would think that getting to know the fleet Captains and SLI’s through working for DGS, would be a great way to get a job with Delta. It’ll take at least 3 years for your commitment to end and an opportunity to interview, but if the phone isn’t ringing now, it seems like a great alternative.
If you’re qualified, I would think that getting to know the fleet Captains and SLI’s through working for DGS, would be a great way to get a job with Delta. It’ll take at least 3 years for your commitment to end and an opportunity to interview, but if the phone isn’t ringing now, it seems like a great alternative.
03-16-2019, 03:58 AM
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There are SLIs, there are DGS. There are also FTPs ( FTPI?). The last are full time Delta employees, used to be known as ground school instructors. They generally teach 100 and 200 level events.
From a student point of view they may seem the same as DGS. From a pay and benefit perspective it is a very different job.
From a student point of view they may seem the same as DGS. From a pay and benefit perspective it is a very different job.
03-16-2019, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
My last CQ, the day 1 instructor was separating from the military, (KC135 Pilot), as his last day was approaching, he hadn’t found a flying job so he took an instructor job with DGS. A few days into his training as an A320 instructor he received a letter for an interview with Delta. He had already committed to the instructor job, but he said Delta promised him an interview when his 3 year commitment was up.
If you’re qualified, I would think that getting to know the fleet Captains and SLI’s through working for DGS, would be a great way to get a job with Delta. It’ll take at least 3 years for your commitment to end and an opportunity to interview, but if the phone isn’t ringing now, it seems like a great alternative.
If you’re qualified, I would think that getting to know the fleet Captains and SLI’s through working for DGS, would be a great way to get a job with Delta. It’ll take at least 3 years for your commitment to end and an opportunity to interview, but if the phone isn’t ringing now, it seems like a great alternative.
03-16-2019, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
Sounds bad, three years of seniority? I'd be looking at other airlines, the chance that DAL, in three years, is not hiring are too great and there you are with zip time. Nooo!
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