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Old 07-23-2018, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by red1330 View Post
How can they be so desperate that they're actually sending non-pilot employees to flight school? Seriously?
They are not sending anyone to flight school. They will however be happy to let you commit to their regional and go to flight school as long as you foot the bill.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr View Post
Delta is not desperate They have thousands of applications on file, and can have thousands more if they wanted them.

What Delta is doing is priming the pipeline for their regional feed. The biggest risk of getting into aviation is that a pilot could be stuck at a regional for a long time. An ab initio program like Delta’s allows a more certain timeframe, thus convincing more people to take the plunge and go to flight school. Delta isn’t paying for their flight training. They’re just offering a structured program.

I like that Delta still requires an interview once these cadets put in their time. I really think the quality of pilots at American (via the flow) will be noticeably worse than the pilots at Delta and United (who may have preferred or guaranteed interviews, but still have to pass them).
American is already seeing flow issues. They expect it to get worse when they start flowing pilots who were hired at the regionals when the criteria for employment became can you fog the mirror.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
American is already seeing flow issues. They expect it to get worse when they start flowing pilots who were hired at the regionals when the criteria for employment became can you fog the mirror.


Fog a mirror? Really? 12 years to flow from Envoy and they still can't hack it? I highly doubt that. I can't speak for PSA/Piedmont but I have interacted with many Envoy pilots over the past decade and I see no such issues.


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Old 07-23-2018, 05:40 AM
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[QUOTE=aviatormjc;2640792]Fog a mirror? Really? 12 years to flow from Envoy and they still can't hack it? I highly doubt that. I can't speak for PSA/Piedmont but I have interacted with many Envoy pilots over the past decade and I see no such issues.

Many of the pilots hired after 2016 at the regionals would not even have been granted a interview prior to that. Extra sim and IOE time is up dramatically from years past. The criteria to get hired now is basically a pulse and the FAA minimums.
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:40 AM
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American is already seeing flow issues. They expect it to get worse when they start flowing pilots who were hired at the regionals when the criteria for employment became can you fog the mirror.
I personally know one the managers of training at AA. Those issues you refer to, were in the past with guys coming off a turboprop only.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:05 AM
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I personally know one the managers of training at AA. Those issues you refer to, were in the past with guys coming off a turboprop only.
As well all know here, he likes to make stuff up.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:23 AM
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As well all know here, he likes to make stuff up.
Yep, there have been absolutely no changes in regional pilot hiring standards!
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Old 07-23-2018, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Yep, there have been absolutely no changes in regional pilot hiring standards!
People have been touting that line for well over a decade ya know right? Probably longer.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:36 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been asked before and if it has been asked my apologies. With the recent slow down in hiring is there a slowdown in the time between internal rec and app scoring as well as invites/fix it's? If so whats the timeline? I had an internal submitted about 7 weeks ago should I just consider myself in the 12 month try again pool ?
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Old 07-26-2018, 01:58 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been asked before and if it has been asked my apologies. With the recent slow down in hiring is there a slowdown in the time between internal rec and app scoring as well as invites/fix it's? If so whats the timeline? I had an internal submitted about 7 weeks ago should I just consider myself in the 12 month try again pool ?
For what its worth, i waited exactly 90 days from internal rec submission to interview invite.
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