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Old 08-29-2018 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Plus the A350 and A330-900 airframes.
Are we getting rid of any 767s or are these all expansion? A well-traveled friend tells me they are getting very tired. I've never been on one myself. Not sure how it would be any different from newer stuff but he also says toward the end of his long Delta flights in the 767 the lavs are particularly disgusting and unusable.

He is going out of his way to travel on the 350 on his next long trip... he's just had enough of the 767s. FWIW, he flies BC and FC exclusively for business and pleasure.
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Old 08-29-2018 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Are we getting rid of any 767s or are these all expansion? A well-traveled friend tells me they are getting very tired. I've never been on one myself. Not sure how it would be any different from newer stuff but he also says toward the end of his long Delta flights in the 767 the lavs are particularly disgusting and unusable.

He is going out of his way to travel on the 350 on his next long trip... he's just had enough of the 767s. FWIW, he flies BC and FC exclusively for business and pleasure.
I don’t think we have plans to park any 767ER’s next year. Not sure what lavs being disgusting at the end of the flight has to do with aircraft age. Our flight attendants do not clean them as they do at other airlines. They are disgusting on all our international aircraft after long flights. I have not seen the 350 lavs but the business lavs on the 767 are much nicer and larger than the A330.
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Old 08-29-2018 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I don’t think we have plans to park any 767ER’s next year. Not sure what lavs being disgusting at the end of the flight has to do with aircraft age. Our flight attendants do not clean them as they do at other airlines. They are disgusting on all our international aircraft after long flights.
I just rode on our 350 and it was equally disgusting at the end of the flight...
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Old 08-29-2018 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Just watched the video. 50+ 88 retirements are offset by 50+ deliveries of the 737-900/A321. The launching of the A220 will provide organic mainline growth
Originally Posted by sailingfun
Plus the A350 and A330-900 airframes.

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Also, the incoming 737-900s and 321s both pay more than the retiring 88s.

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Old 08-29-2018 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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Also, the incoming 737-900s and 321s both pay more than the retiring 88s.

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Since they both hold about eighty-e-lebin more people shouldn't that be the case?
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Old 08-29-2018 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
Since they both hold about eighty-e-lebin more people shouldn't that be the case?
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Yes. It was for Trip7 who inferred that the new NB jets were simply replacements for 88s. They are higher paying replacements.

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Old 08-29-2018 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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It goes to the poster at the top of this page who inferred that the new NB jets were simply replacements for 88s. They are higher paying replacements.
True, however they are larger capacity replacements and therefore require fewer pilots to fly a given number of pax all things being equal. Either way that's a management decision though.
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Old 08-29-2018 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
True, however they are larger capacity replacements and therefore require fewer pilots to fly a given number of pax all things being equal. Either way that's a management decision though.
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Yes, but I believe our mainline jet count will be bigger in 2019 than 2017, yes?

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Old 08-29-2018 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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Yes, but I believe our mainline jet count will be bigger in 2019 than 2017, yes?

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Without a doubt due to the A220

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Old 08-29-2018 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Are we getting rid of any 767s or are these all expansion? A well-traveled friend tells me they are getting very tired. I've never been on one myself. Not sure how it would be any different from newer stuff but he also says toward the end of his long Delta flights in the 767 the lavs are particularly disgusting and unusable.

He is going out of his way to travel on the 350 on his next long trip... he's just had enough of the 767s. FWIW, he flies BC and FC exclusively for business and pleasure.
I've seen way more 737 lavs looking disgusting after 4 hours vs a 767 international flight.
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