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Old 09-18-2018 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Sorry; this is probably my fault. I don't know why we Airbus drivers rush to run the Taxi Check with deferred items instead of enjoying a nice, relaxing, heads up taxi to something parallel to and well short of a runway, starting the other engine, THEN after delayed start and taxi check with nothing deferred.

Instead of "taxi check" .. "what did Ground tell us to do" "continue" "where's Southwest, why's he get to go in front" "continue" "what Rj?" "deferred" "the winds did what?" "you type" "after delayed start" "checklist complete" :-)

Reduced gate latency, taxi time, fewer errors and you have something to do during that awkward 5 minutes sitting there waiting for other airplanes to depart, when you're not supposed to be talking about (union politics/bids/overnights/everyone else's landings). Must just be me.
Or, you do have brakes captain, even a handle that holds them for you. I can be heads up or heads down during taxi, but that’s entirely up to you. You have 1 job to do, drive. I have 7. Our former boss used to tell us to slow down all the time. Wonder if the new guy will echo that caution.
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Old 09-18-2018 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf


Or, you do have brakes captain, even a handle that holds them for you. I can be heads up or heads down during taxi, but that’s entirely up to you. You have 1 job to do, drive. I have 7. Our former boss used to tell us to slow down all the time. Wonder if the new guy will echo that caution.
My opinion is we should have the taxi checklist tasks completed at the gate (WDR received) on push (set flaps). Do a quick FTL CTRL check, then call taxi. Get both pilots heads up.
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Old 09-26-2018 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
My opinion is we should have the taxi checklist tasks completed at the gate (WDR received) on push (set flaps). Do a quick FTL CTRL check, then call taxi. Get both pilots heads up.
That’s what United does.
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Old 09-26-2018 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
My opinion is we should have the taxi checklist tasks completed at the gate (WDR received) on push (set flaps). Do a quick FTL CTRL check, then call taxi. Get both pilots heads up.
Didnt we used to do this with the performance checklist at the gate? I liked that way better. If I remember correctly, it was sacrificed to get us off the gate faster.
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Old 09-26-2018 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
Didnt we used to do this with the performance checklist at the gate? I liked that way better. If I remember correctly, it was sacrificed to get us off the gate faster.
Yup. We have systematically added things to do during taxi out for flexibility. RNAV runway change and verification, WDR entry and verification, second engine start to free up the ATL ramp and reduce dwell time. It used to be heading and altitude and if you had a runway change normal TO power and off you go.

Add complexity while reducing taxi times. And they wonder why there’s a spike in errors during that phase of flight. Brilliant!

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Old 09-26-2018 | 01:33 PM
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We had to say “WARTS” before every takeoff. Nobody knew what it meant.
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Old 09-26-2018 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
We had to say “WARTS” before every takeoff. Nobody knew what it meant.
WARTS on every takeoff and the ol' "Go F-I-S-T" yourself on every approach. Oh the things that made Delta run like a finely-tuned Swiss watch. 😁
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Old 09-26-2018 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
WARTS on every takeoff and the ol' "Go F-I-S-T" yourself on every approach. Oh the things that made Delta run like a finely-tuned Swiss watch. 😁
We were mostly worried about the cows...
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Old 09-27-2018 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
My opinion is we should have the taxi checklist tasks completed at the gate (WDR received) on push (set flaps). Do a quick FTL CTRL check, then call taxi. Get both pilots heads up.
CAL did it and United adapted.
I don't think it would work with latency initiative here at DAL.
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Old 09-27-2018 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
My opinion is we should have the taxi checklist tasks completed at the gate (WDR received) on push (set flaps). Do a quick FTL CTRL check, then call taxi. Get both pilots heads up.
I like the current DAL Procedures. Ramps are usually a mad house(especially ATL) so I wait til on the taxiways before calling for taxi checklist. Heck, 717 engines take so long to start a significant amount of the time I call for the taxi checklist after the delayed start checklist which I think is what Bucking Bar was alluding to(no rush to get taxi checklist done).
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