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Old 07-14-2018 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Oddly, the TOC is more than capable of handling the M90 overhauls but that would mean foregoing outsourced overhauls that they currently do in order to reallocate man-hours to the MD90 engines. Guess we must get a pretty premium for those overhauls.
That's a new one for me. What I'd heard is that the MD-90 is a unique sub model of it's engine family, which is where all the headache comes from as there aren't really all that many MD-90s out there. I could see TOC eventually going to approval to do the overhauls themselves, but my understanding is they cannot at this time.
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Old 07-14-2018 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
That's a new one for me. What I'd heard is that the MD-90 is a unique sub model of it's engine family, which is where all the headache comes from as there aren't really all that many MD-90s out there. I could see TOC eventually going to approval to do the overhauls themselves, but my understanding is they cannot at this time.
We have the D5 variant of the engine. The only change is where the accessories are mounted. A quick look at overhaul shops doesn't show any variant exclusions.

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Old 07-14-2018 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
We have the D5 variant of the engine. The only change is where the accessories are mounted. A quick look at overhaul shops don’t show any variant exclusions.
Mechanics have told me that the differences are enough that there is only one shop willing to work on them anymore. Maybe the information is wrong, but if it's not then there doesn't seem to be any reason for us to be paying a big premium over the operators that have other variants.
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Old 07-14-2018 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The MD90’s are not being parked. About 4 MD88’s a month will be removed from service. They will be replaced by 7 or more 737/A321/A220 aircraft per month.
We just parked 9265 the other day.
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Old 07-14-2018 | 12:41 PM
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Old 07-14-2018 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The MD90’s are not being parked. About 4 MD88’s a month will be removed from service. They will be replaced by 7 or more 737/A321/A220 aircraft per month.
80 already pointed this out. I, too, want to say that some 90’s are definitely being parked. I was assigned a rotation to take one to SBD last month.
Every now and then sailingfun provides good info. But the odds of him being right are too low for me to ever place a bet on him.
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Old 07-14-2018 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by buckleyboy
80 already pointed this out. I, too, want to say that some 90’s are definitely being parked. I was assigned a rotation to take one to SBD last month.
Every now and then sailingfun provides good info. But the odds of him being right are too low for me to ever place a bet on him.
Technically the 90s aren't being parked permanently. They're trying to save them and strategically park some to be pulled out later before they come up for overhaul. I've heard the 90s may be here through 2023. The 88s are done for good when they get parked.
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Old 07-14-2018 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by buckleyboy
80 already pointed this out. I, too, want to say that some 90’s are definitely being parked. I was assigned a rotation to take one to SBD last month.
Every now and then sailingfun provides good info. But the odds of him being right are too low for me to ever place a bet on him.
88’s and 90’s have been rotated in and out of the desert for the last 20 years. You need to know if the aircraft is in storage or permanently parked. The current fleet plan does not have any major reduction in MD90 time. We have to many airframes for the fall schedule. You will probably see some A319’s and A320’s going into storage. Does not mean they are parking the fleet.
Aircraft are also placed into storage to balance cycles relative to heavy checks.
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Old 07-14-2018 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
88’s and 90’s have been rotated in and out of the desert for the last 20 years. You need to know if the aircraft is in storage or permanently parked. The current fleet plan does not have any major reduction in MD90 time. We have to many airframes for the fall schedule. You will probably see some A319’s and A320’s going into storage. Does not mean they are parking the fleet.
Aircraft are also placed into storage to balance cycles relative to heavy checks.
Rotation remarks and sector manager referred to it as a retirement flight. I take that as permanent.
Needless to say, we digress.
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Old 07-16-2018 | 12:04 PM
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I was on a flight recently sitting next to our mechanic. He said that as soon as this summer is over the retirements of 88/90's will increase well above the originally planed (this Spring) figures.
He didn't have any details, just more than planned.
Anyone heard anything similar?
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