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Old 03-01-2020, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94 View Post
With United cancelling class right before should some of us be worried going into class next week? I know they had MAX orders so it seems like they were hurting before the virus, but a lot of us waiting a week before class have already resigned at our previous carriers? Time to worry or should we be ok?
no, management said at Velvet last week that they have no intention of decreasing new hire classes due to this coronavirus
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Old 03-01-2020, 03:28 AM
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no, management said at Velvet last week that they have no intention of decreasing new hire classes due to this coronavirus
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it true that companies were hiring and held classes right up to the day they began furloughing?
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:39 AM
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no, management said at Velvet last week that they have no intention of decreasing new hire classes due to this coronavirus
I was in ATL this week for mentor training, from last week to this week that assumption has changed. It’s the first time I’ve publicly heard a manager say it’s something they are looking at from network, no decision has been made yet though but they are running through contingencies...this came directly from BS, the Manager of CR
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun View Post
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it true that companies were hiring and held classes right up to the day they began furloughing?
The saying "airlines hire until they furlough and furlough until they hire" didn't just appear for no reason.

And no, I am not saying or even implying that we are going to furlough.
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:16 AM
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I was in ATL this week for mentor training, from last week to this week that assumption has changed. It’s the first time I’ve publicly heard a manager say it’s something they are looking at from network, no decision has been made yet though but they are running through contingencies...this came directly from BS, the Manager of CR
the same guy that said there would be a LAX 220 base? And the same guy that has said things would be on AEs and they weren't? The same guy that says when the AE results will be posted then doesn't for days after? That guy? I'd believe the people that spoke at velvet feb 26,27 10 out of 10 times over BS.
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:50 AM
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the same guy that said there would be a LAX 220 base? And the same guy that has said things would be on AEs and they weren't? The same guy that says when the AE results will be posted then doesn't for days after? That guy? I'd believe the people that spoke at velvet feb 26,27 10 out of 10 times over BS.
been to velvet twice IT, those guys blow more smoke at that cheerleading camp than any group of people I’ve ever been around. Just keep in mind it’s a fluid situation, there were lots of other flight ops leaders in the room besides him...a lot more than would be at cheerleading camp
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been to velvet twice IT, those guys blow more smoke at that cheerleading camp than any group of people I’ve ever been around. Just keep in mind it’s a fluid situation, there were lots of other flight ops leaders in the room besides him...a lot more than would be at cheerleading camp
true, but at the same time we are so far behind hiring that this is probably a sigh of relief for summer staffing for management. Now they might actually be able to adequately staff us for summer.
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How is Velvet any different from a Flight Ops Base Visit?
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true, but at the same time we are so far behind hiring that this is probably a sigh of relief for summer staffing for management. Now they might actually be able to adequately staff us for summer.
Agreed. We're understaffed and have a huge retirement wave on the horizon. There is a lot of room to cool down the operation before we furlough as well. Lower ALV's, more on RSV, LOAs, SILs, etc. Age 65+ is a far bigger threat than corona right now (and fortunately it seems highly unlikely).
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the same guy that said there would be a LAX 220 base? And the same guy that has said things would be on AEs and they weren't? The same guy that says when the AE results will be posted then doesn't for days after? That guy? I'd believe the people that spoke at velvet feb 26,27 10 out of 10 times over BS.
I've spoken to BS face to face twice last month...appears to genuienly speak from the heart.

I believe he is truly a victim of the network whip. They say one thing, he puts out a video or newsletter trying to share as much info as he can, and then they change their mind last second.
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