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Old 03-01-2020, 10:06 AM
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How is Velvet any different from a Flight Ops Base Visit?
You get paid to go to Velvet
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Old 03-01-2020, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
I've spoken to BS face to face twice last month...appears to genuienly speak from the heart.



I believe he is truly a victim of the network whip. They say one thing, he puts out a video or newsletter trying to share as much info as he can, and then they change their mind last second.


And as for him posting on multiple occasions “we will post the AE results today” then doesn’t do it for 3-4 days?


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Old 03-01-2020, 02:27 PM
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With United cancelling class right before should some of us be worried going into class next week? I know they had MAX orders so it seems like they were hurting before the virus, but a lot of us waiting a week before class have already resigned at our previous carriers? Time to worry or should we be ok?
As others have said, I don't think you need to worry. We are too far behind on hiring.
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:29 PM
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And as for him posting on multiple occasions “we will post the AE results today” then doesn’t do it for 3-4 days?


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I don’t have an answer for that. All I’m saying is that when PB or WC spoke, there was definitely some managerial tone in some of their answers...BS appeared more from the heart/straight shooter than politician.
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:19 PM
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As others have said, I don't think you need to worry. We are too far behind on hiring.
Mgmt will go to great lengths to make as much money as possible. Remember summer? They will do the same to save money and not burn cash. The bean counters don’t care about emotion, just the bottom line. Time will tell

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Old 03-01-2020, 06:00 PM
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Mgmt will go to great lengths to make as much money as possible. Remember summer? They will do the same to save money and not burn cash. The bean counters don’t care about emotion, just the bottom line. Time will tell
The bean counters also know what our training throughput is and what we need next year too. We already got in a hole and this won't affect more than this summer at the most.
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[QUOTE=Baradium;2987514]The bean counters also know what our training throughput is and what we need next year too. We already got in a hole and this won't affect more than this summer at the most.[/QUOT

Maybe, but given the fact that the training/hiring debacle and AE incompetence of the last 2 years has been self inflicted by Network/CR/Bean counters then you are more optimistic than me that they don’t gumm this up too.
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Old 03-01-2020, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gopher3 View Post
Mgmt will go to great lengths to make as much money as possible. Remember summer? They will do the same to save money and not burn cash. The bean counters don’t care about emotion, just the bottom line. Time will tell
curious if guys ***** themselves out for greenies this summer if it’ll even be worth it for profit sharing...good money up front but the GS profit sharing benefit is nice too
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Old 03-01-2020, 08:11 PM
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curious if guys ***** themselves out for greenies this summer if it’ll even be worth it for profit sharing...good money up front but the GS profit sharing benefit is nice too
This here makes the argument of why hiring may slow. Mgmt knows this group salivates for the greenies. Sr dudes getting close to the end are going to max out especially if no contract is on the horizon. Pilots will complain if the Greenslip well dries up because for many it is a massive pay cut. Mgmt knows they can run it lean again and now have a reason.
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Old 03-02-2020, 05:07 AM
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I was in ATL this week for mentor training, from last week to this week that assumption has changed. It’s the first time I’ve publicly heard a manager say it’s something they are looking at from network, no decision has been made yet though but they are running through contingencies...this came directly from BS, the Manager of CR
I am sure DAL will try to get ahead of this but in reality it will be hard not to screw it up worse. News/outlook on this virus can change in a moment and while network can respond within a month if not quicker it takes crew resources many months to implement any significant change. The vicissitudes of this industry make it almost impossible to stay ahead of in periods of rapid change and instability. I wouldn't be too surprised if the bid packages for April are delayed.

On the positive side oil should be a bargain throughout this period. I personally would glad to help out and take a 55 hour SIL.

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