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Old 08-24-2013, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
More than one.

Probably not the same person, but you can look right here on this board and find Pinnacle pilots who state they're expecting some sort of seniority integration which recognizes their longevity.

Don't want to argue about it. It is what it is, and it is funny.
Now that right thar is funny! There are some pilots at a former DCI carrier that tried to do that...

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Old 08-24-2013, 08:14 AM
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Now that right thar is funny! There are some pilots at a former DCI carrier that tried to do that...

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Hey! I want my 20 years in the Air Force to count! What a great idea!
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
Now that right thar is funny! There are some pilots at a former DCI carrier that tried to do that...

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Yeah ... and that did a lot of damage. Shame on me for repeating "Mater's Tall Tales."

I'd be all for a merger which unified the express system within the brand as some at Northwest pushed for at one time. But, this round of taking concessions to score restrictions on Delta scope & gain some degree of preferential interviewing / hiring arrangement was not good for our profession, IMHO.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:17 AM
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Seconded ... .
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:02 AM
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Hey! I want my 20 years in the Air Force to count! What a great idea!
Uh.....let me see, 25 plus, uhhhh, carry the 1, uh, dang higher math (I'd never pass the tests now), hey, I should have 40+ years now!!

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Old 08-24-2013, 09:36 AM
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Stir the pot bud, sure. Next time one of our pilots says this to you, take it to pro-stans.
Like Pro-Stan would give a Rip what a JS'r said to a Capt. Get a clue.

And to set it straight, ANY flow throughs go to the BOTTOM of the list. I think Compass has the only true flow through and that's because they did the complete interview @ the time they were hired. For the others that are getting interviews - THAT'S all you're being given. The interview will be a full force interview. Show up w/ attitude or a sense of entitlement and be ready to hear that door slam as you walk out. Good luck to those of you who want it, get ready for it, and show up prepared!

Just off the press:

The first 20 flow-ups come from Compass and the next nine come from Mesaba each month that we are hiring. Numbers are also subject to the limits in the flow-up agreements.

It’s approximately one-third of all off-the-street positions subject to a cap of 12 per month for now. We committed to monthly hiring numbers (1/3 of all available off-the-street positions up to a maximum of 12 through 2016 and then 15 in 2017 and 20 in 2018 and beyond) until we exhausted the interviews of the 2,000 Endeavor pilots that were on the seniority list (and stay on it) at the time the Bridge Agreement was signed in January 2013.

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Old 08-24-2013, 09:40 AM
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Is that the same "general jet engines and high altitude flying" test that ...

The flow was through the boost pumps and past a low-pressure sensor, through two check valves, and finally through the engine fuel shutoff valve. There is a boost pump bypass valve which allows fuel to be drawn from the tank by the engine pumps even if all boost pumps are off. Fuel flow is the same for tanks 1 and 3 except that they have two boost pumps each instead of four. There are standpipes to keep you from pumping below 2,300 pounds and the crossfeeds need to be closed if you have the dump valves open, right?

So lets say we need to dump 12,000 pounds and ...

727 Fuel dumping problems were still on the test in 2007.

Now lets talk about LEMAC and then we're talking about F4's.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
But, this round of taking concessions to score restrictions on Delta scope & gain some degree of preferential interviewing / hiring arrangement was not good for our profession, IMHO.
To bring the circle back, again, I agree with your point.

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Like Pro-Stan would give a Rip what a JS'r said to a Capt. Get a clue.
Kinda depends, but actually a JS committee member would be the one to address that with. You ever done any work in that capacity? Don't EVER hesitate to call the person in question, get their side of the story. And if they were in the wrong (probably were), give them an ear full of how they might wanna S-T-H-U about it in the future and don't make the rest of the pilot group look bad.
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:18 AM
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Did Pinnacle pilots take the tests as part of their Pinnacle interview? Will pilots of DCI carriers who have previously passed the tests to Delta standards have to retake the tests as part of the interview process?
What test? I would be happy to take the same test that the Western Airlines and Northwest Airline pilots took for their continued employment at DAL. Oh yeah that was a merger. Isn't it funny when a major wants to buy another major but can't so they have a merger and the seniority list are merged to one. I just wonder what ALPA's response would be if Western and NWA pilots would be required to take a test and interviewed to have continued employment at DAL. We already know what happens when a major buys a regional.

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Old 08-24-2013, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
More than one.

Probably not the same person, but you can look right here on this board and find Pinnacle pilots who state they're expecting some sort of seniority integration which recognizes their longevity.

Don't want to argue about it. It is what it is, and it is funny.
They can have seniority integration based on longevity. But it's not going to do them any good. ZERO years of longevity gets you at the bottom of the list too.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja View Post
Like Pro-Stan would give a Rip what a JS'r said to a Capt. Get a clue.

And to set it straight, ANY flow throughs go to the BOTTOM of the list. I think Compass has the only true flow through and that's because they did the complete interview @ the time they were hired. For the others that are getting interviews - THAT'S all you're being given. The interview will be a full force interview. Show up w/ attitude or a sense of entitlement and be ready to hear that door slam as you walk out. Good luck to those of you who want it, get ready for it, and show up prepared!

Just off the press:

The first 20 flow-ups come from Compass and the next nine come from Mesaba each month that we are hiring. Numbers are also subject to the limits in the flow-up agreements.

It’s approximately one-third of all off-the-street positions subject to a cap of 12 per month for now. We committed to monthly hiring numbers (1/3 of all available off-the-street positions up to a maximum of 12 through 2016 and then 15 in 2017 and 20 in 2018 and beyond) until we exhausted the interviews of the 2,000 Endeavor pilots that were on the seniority list (and stay on it) at the time the Bridge Agreement was signed in January 2013.

Baja.
Actually our Pro-Stan's takes this very seriously. You can get it fixed at the source or you can whine about it here. IMHO it's whining about something that never happened. We all know IF we get the job it's at the bottom of the list. Thanks Capt Obvious.
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